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Sopranos Final Season

from: Terry Winter
to: Jeffrey Goldberg, Timothy Noah, and Brian Williams

Week 8: Messages Are Not David Chase's Style

Posted Monday, June 4, 2007, at 8:29 PM ET

Timothy Noah chatted with readers about The Sopranos on June 7. Read the transcript here.

Hey Guys:

Thanks so much for including me in this week's discussion and also for your many kind words about my work, in particular my Nobel Prize in Television Writing. (My only prouder moment was when I received the Raccoon of the Year award from my fellow lodge brothers.)

And, as Jeff pointed out, let me take this opportunity right upfront to refuse to comment on any speculation about what has happened, what might happen, who did what to whom, who put the bop in the bop-shoo-bop-shoo-bop, or whether or not this Casaubon fellow will appear in the series finale. (I almost had to root through my extensive collection of CliffsNotes until Tim pointed out that it was a reference to some Reverend who used to grope his mouldy futilities. Is that what they were calling them in those days?)



While it is true that I am feeling bereft about the end of the series, I'm also convinced that this feeling will soon pass, as I have many other exciting projects that I'm working on, first and foremost learning how to properly burp my newborn son, Maximilian. I'm also busy promoting a movie I wrote, which I'll now plug—Brooklyn Rules, starring Alec Baldwin and Freddie Prinze Jr., now in theaters in select cities. But no matter what else lies ahead, I'm already quite comfortable with the fact that The Sopranos will remain the highlight of my career, not just for the obvious artistic reasons, but because of the many lasting friendships I've made during my tenure there.

Does defiling a waiting-room magazine make one a sociopath? I would say that not all magazine defilers are sociopaths, but certainly all sociopaths are magazine defilers. Though I've been guilty of this behavior myself, there was a time once when I tried to take the high road and simply ask for the magazine article. I was getting a haircut (back when I had hair), and I chanced upon an article I wanted to tear out of a centuries-old Reader's Digest. Since the magazine was ancient and they literally had dozens of other magazines there, I assumed the proprietor would tell me to just take the magazine. She did not. She wouldn't even sell it to me. So I stole it, which set me off on a life of crime writing. Top of the world, Ma!

As regards Melfi and her vicarious thrill-seeking, many, if not all, of our main characters have made deals with the devil, and Melfi is no exception. As David Chase has pointed out in the past, in her first session with Tony, she clearly waffles during her explanation of the doctor/patient privilege. "… Where a patient tells me someone is going to be hurt? I'm supposed to go to the authorities. Technically." That "technically" speaks volumes about Jennifer Melfi.

Jeff asked whether in last night's episode David chose to deliver a message regarding the consequences of violence. While I certainly can't speak for David, I will say that messages are not his style. And while it's true the violence plays out in front of children, the train-store locale is organic to Bacala's character. We've established him as a model-railroad enthusiast, so it makes sense that he'd be at that store. It also makes sense that kids might be there, too.

Tim, you're one of the few viewers who caught the introduction of Sitting Bull as one of our new characters. We were pretty convinced that because of the similarities Italian American mobsters share with Native Americans—the catchy nicknames, the penchant for loud, flashy clothing—that not too many people would notice.

That said, I must point out that Rhiannon isn't a new character at all, but rather a previously introduced, albeit little-seen, one from a few episodes in early Season 6. (She first appeared in the episode "Johnny Cakes," hanging out with A.J. and his friends at a Manhattan nightclub.)

I'm not sure where David got the name Soprano—if memory serves, he went to school with someone with that name. As for me, I've used the names of maybe two dozen relatives and former classmates over the years; we've also picked names out of newspapers, phone books, and obituary columns. And I'm glad you liked the name Cosette for Adriana's squished-to-death dog, which I can take credit for. It sounded just "highbrow" enough to be right. As for Big Pussy, Meadow, and Phil Leotardo—all David Chase. I believe he also had an Uncle Junior.

On to the music. First, the use of Cavalleria Rusticana is Raging Bull and Raging Bull only. Godfather III does not exist for me. It ceased to exist at 3:30 p.m. on Christmas Day, 1990, when I walked out of the first-ever showing at the Kings Plaza Shopping Center Multiplex in Brooklyn, utterly heartbroken at what I had just witnessed.

The music on our show is almost exclusively chosen by David Chase and our producer, Martin Bruestle, each of whom have an encyclopedic knowledge of music. John Cooper Clarke's Evidently Chicken Town, (which was used to great effect this season at the end of the episode "Stage 5") is a good example. David heard this song once in the 1980s while cleaning out his garage and knew then and there that he would use it in a show some day.

Finally, as for providing the key to all mythologies, I'm afraid that falls under the "no comment" clause, but this much I can tell you—it's actually not a key at all, it's a combination lock, the cheap kind you can buy in the stationery aisle at any Rite-Aid.

Best,
Terry

from: Terry Winter
to: Jeffrey Goldberg, Timothy Noah, and Brian Williams

Week 8: Messages Are Not David Chase's Style

Posted Monday, June 4, 2007, at 8:29 PM ET
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Jeffrey Goldberg is a national correspondent for the Atlantic and the author of Prisoners: A Story of Friendship and Terror. Stephen Metcalf is Slate's critic at large. He is working on a book about the 1980s. Timothy Noah is a senior writer at Slate. Brian Williams is the anchor and managing editor of NBC Nightly News. Terence Winter is a writer and an executive producer of The Sopranos. His teleplay "Pine Barrens," written with Tim Van Patten, won the 2001 Writers Guild Award and the Edgar Award.
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Remarks from the Fray Editor:

As a basic cable slum-dweller, the Fray Editor has been following the discussion of The Sopranos with admiration and envy. The passion, erudition, and insight of the show's fans—Slate's commentators and Fraysters alike—proves the case that this series is not to be missed. Below, Fray poster lucabrasi considers how the 6.5 season story arc has led the show inevitably to the present moment.

May this weekend's finale exceed your wildest expectations. My prediction? Paulie Walnuts in the Bing with a shoe buffer.—G.A.

Remarks from the Fray:

I must salute the excellent close of the mob wars arc that started way back in Season One.

Looking back from today, with Tony's Jersey crime family indeed looking like a "glorified crew" in the eyes of New York, one can see it, almost clearly:

Season One: Tony's issues were of ascension in that smallish Jersey family. Jackie Sr. was dying; Uncle Junior was the designated "front don," and yet bitter enough about Tony's power to use Livia's ambiguous directives to hit Tony. Didn't work. Junior was exiled and took on Federal heat; Tony had the others killed.

Season Two: Richie Aprile gets out of prison. A theme begins: guys out of prison resent Tony, who never served. But Richie, too, is "local Jersey trouble." His escalating conflict with Tony is going to be dealt with rather easily -- Tony wants Richie hit, but Janice delivers a dose of even MORE "local" justice.

Meanwhile, I think NYC underboss Johnny Sack turns up living in Jersey, but promising Tony "I don't want to wet my beak."

The main NYC Don is Carmine Sr, an old school guy. Tony can deal with Carmine Sr, but Sack starts getting that lean and hungry look...

Seasons Three and Four: Other issues are on the table (Jackie Jr., Tony and Carm's marriage), but Tony's adversaries are manageable: made guy Ralphie and the ever-more-ambitious and angry Sack. Ralphie is eliminated, quietly (if NYC ever finds out...). Sack wants Tony to hit Old Man Carmine; Tony pulls out at the last moment. Sack looks to be vengeful.

Season Five: The big trouble all starts here, with the release of the "Class of '84". It's like four Richie Apriles. Tony has a lotta plates to spin: an old-timer named Feech who wants it all, locally, Tony's cousin Tony B, the "Rockford Guy" (Joe Santos) who Tony B idolizes as a father, and a real hothead named Phil Leotardo.

Carmine Sr. croaks. Phil joins with Sack against Little Carmine, Tony B joins with the Rockford Guy and Rusty in backing Little Carmine's play. Tony elects to back off and see how Jersey can benefit from the ensuing bloodshed, of which there is a lot.

During all this, two little matters occur: Seeking owed cash, Tony subjects Phil Leotardo to a body-breaking car crash and beats up Phil at the accident site as a "throw-in." Tony B kills Phil's brother Billy Leotardo.

In retrospect, these last two actions were perhaps...unfortunate.

Sack and Phil kill more guys than Little Carmine's team. Little caves ("It's a stagmire.") Sack ascends to Donhood. Tony can deal with Sack (having killed Tony B as a burnt offering), and Sack will stave off the still vengeful Phil Leotardo.

But right at the end of Season Five, the Feds nab Sack. Go directly to jail.

Season 6A: Sack's in prison, but the putative boss, with Phil fronting him on the outside. Tony's shot for a few episodes. The "gay Vito issue" gives Phil new reason for putting the pressure on Tony's Jersey boys. With Sack losing power by the day, Phil contemplates his rages against Tony: getting beaten up by Tony, paying money to Tony, brother killed by the cousin of Tony, gay Vito protected by Tony. Phil has a heart attack to match Tony's gutshot. Things seem peaceful between these two wounded warriors. But this guy Butch turns up, taunting Tony.

Season 6B. Tony's luck with New York runs out, via a series of crap outs: Sack dies of cancer; Doc kills Gerry; Phil kills Doc.. Phil is "the big boss man," finally, and the worst possible New York Don Tony Soprano could face. Filled with jailhouse vengeance and itching to consolidate power, Phil pushes Tony too far (with the sexual insult of Coco towards Meadow, ultimately). Tony retaliates (curbing); Phil says "there's nothing left to talk about," and here we are.

Now, I' m not sure how much of that was plotted early on by Chase and Company, but looking back on it, you see how this final, fatal gang war was literally years in the making. Tony Soprano fended off Jersey threats (Junior, Richie), kept the peace with Carmine Sr, dangerously dueled with Sack (the longest of Tony's strategic encounters), sat out the gang war to replace Carmine Sr...and ended up on the wrong end of Phil's bloody ascension to the throne of the New York Family.

Where things are now is where they HAVE to be. Inevitability.

--lucabrasi

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