With multi-disciplinary careers and all cylinders firing, SuChin Pak talks with Master of None stars Lena Waithe, who produced the Sundance film Dear White People,

and Ravi Patel, who directed the documentary Meet the Patels, about first paychecks, the art of negotiating, personal branding, and what matters way more than money.

Listen here, or subscribe on iTunes.

Open Account is a series of podcasts hosted by SuChin Pak about why money is so universally thrilling, confusing, powerful, and stressful — no matter how much, or how little, you have.

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Open Account was created in partnership with Umpqua Bank, the West Coast’s largest and most unconventional community bank.

Listen to Episode 1 here. Next up: Practical Dreamers. Listen here.