The Gist: Marc Ginsberg on ISIS and David Lowery on the music industry.

How Can We Counter the ISIS Narrative? This Ambassador Suggests George Costanza.

How Can We Counter the ISIS Narrative? This Ambassador Suggests George Costanza.

A daily news and culture podcast with Mike Pesca.
Jan. 21 2015 6:10 PM

George Costanza vs. ISIS

Enlisting Art Vandelay in the war against Islamic extremism’s nihilistic narrative.

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George Costanza, secret weapon against Islamic extremism.

Photo illustration by Slate. Photo by Hohum/Wikimedia Commons.

Listen to Episode 178 of Slate’s The Gist:

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Winning the public relations war against ISIS won’t be easy, but maybe we’re not using the right weapons. On The Gist, Ambassador Marc Ginsberg calls for SEAL Team Six–style social media barrage and an army of entertainer-diplomats, including Jason Alexander, aka Seinfeld’s George Castanza. Plus, songwriter David Lowery tells how musicians are banding together against the corporate music industry. For the Spiel, a Springsteen-esque moment in the Republican response to the State of the Union.

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Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.