The Gist: Heather Mac Donald on the Ferguson Effect and crime statistics.

This Gist Interview Gets a Little Tense

This Gist Interview Gets a Little Tense

A daily news and culture podcast with Mike Pesca.
June 8 2015 8:26 PM

Grasping for the Ferguson Effect

Mike Pesca debates guest Heather Mac Donald about drawing a link between a spike in inner-city crime to civil unrest in Missouri.

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Is this Cleveland Police car getting less use because of the so-called “Ferguson Effect”?

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In the Wall Street Journal editorial “The New Nationwide Crime Wave, Heather Mac Donald argues that spikes in inner city crime are the consequence of “The Ferguson Effect” on police. Today on The Gist, Mike Pesca disagrees. Mac Donald is the author of Are Cops Racist, and at the Manhattan Institute scholar. For the Spiel, is edible normcore taking it on the chin?

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Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.