While most popular dieting advice revolves around watching carbs or cutting sugar, author Simon Doonan reveals to Slate viewers one of the big secrets to a slim physique that he writes about in his book, Gay Men Don’t Get Fat. It’s simple: Everyone should just eat a mix of “gay” foods and “straight” foods. Overdoing it on hetero mainstays like steak and gravy will definitely pack on the pounds, and if you want to make a gay food, like a macaroon, straight, all you’ve got to do is deep fry it.

And what exactly is lesbian olive oil? Watch the latest installment of Conversations With Slate to hear Doonan’s explanation:

Watch Part 1 with Simon Doonan, where he discusses why only dictators look hip.

Watch Part 2 with Simon Doonan, where he answers your fashion questions.