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This week’s edition of Slate’s parenting podcast Mom and Dad Are Fighting is a recording of our very first live show, at Motorco in Durham, North Carolina! Slate editors Allison Benedikt and Dan Kois are joined onstage by Mac McCaughan, lead singer of Superchunk and head of Merge Records, to talk about parenting while living a creative life. Then, Allison quizzes Dan and Mac about Dad Things for Father’s Day. Plus triumphs and fails (Dan’s are presented in the form of two short plays), parenting questions from the audience, and a live song from Mac’s great new solo album, Non-Believers.

This week on Slate Plus, Mac covers his kids’ favorite songs—with his kids right there in the audience.

Items not discussed in the show but that we want to tell you about anyway:

• Allison’s husband wrote this history of Merge Records, Mac’s record label.
• Dan and Mac both choked on Allison’s question about great songs about fatherhood, but later Mac thought of “Living Proof” and “Independence Day” by Bruce Springsteen, and Dan thought of “Father and Daughter” by Paul Simon.

Mom and Dad recommend:

This week we recommended an audience-created playlist of songs that kids love and parents cannot stand! As a service to you, our listener, we’ve embedded it here.

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Slate Plus members: Check out The History of American Slavery, the new Slate Academy podcast co-hosted by Jamelle Bouie and Rebecca Onion.  

Email us at momanddad@slate.com to tell us what you thought of today’s show and give us ideas for what we should cover in the next edition. Got questions that you’d like us to answer on a future episode? Call and leave us a message at 424-255-7833.

Live show produced by Joel Meyer at Motorco. Thanks to Merge Records. Podcast produced by Ann Heppermann. Our intern is Jessie Chasan-Taber.