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It's done, over. It's Obama, not Hillary. They'll be another woman candidate (no doubt a somewhat regular occurrence from now on). One day, there will be one and, like Obama is to Jesse Jackson, she will be to Hillary: a candidate who appeals to EVERYONE--beyond the pull of identity politics. And that one will be the first woman president.
--StevieN
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This whole feminist discussion re: the election bugs me primarily because we're all assuming that women, unlike men, don't evaluate candidates on criteria like policies and voting history...that the choice between Hillary and Obama is the choice between rebellion against your mother or kowtowing to your boyfriend. Come on, I thought feminism meant that we stopped treating the girls differently because they're girls! Where are all the articles about men afraid to openly support Obama out of fear of offending their feminist girlfriend? That's right, there aren't any, because everyone assumes that men are looking at candidates for qualities other than their genitals, or some deep psychological battle with their fathers, or approval by their peers.
--Jenniferwhatnot
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Nothing says boomer narcissism like identifying a particular problem in one's own sphere of understanding and deciding it must be entirely new and unique… It would take far too long to detail how western history and literature (from Oedipus to Henry IV to HW Plainview) has faithfully told and re-told the story of men rejecting the worlds and lives of their fathers. Certainly, it is a failure of Western culture to have for so long ignored the parallel stories of mothers and daughters, but to attribute to that story a uniqueness that denies the experiences of fathers and sons is to remake the mistakes of the dead white men that the second-wave feminists worked so hard to debunk.
--Dickey Roscombe
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Musings of a Republican feminist…I'm probably against most of what Hillary stands for on just about every subject. And yet... when I hear the kids talk about Hillary Clinton and not wanting to vote for her because she's shrill or bitchy or a nagging mom, it makes me want to go burn a bra! It's time we were judged by the content of our character and not the pitch of our voice when we speak! If I continue to hear the patronizing attacks against her based on the pitch of her voice or her appearance or her husband, I may just have to vote for her. Girls need to stick together sometimes.
--kamom
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Comments from the Fray
It's done, over. It's Obama, not Hillary. They'll be another woman candidate (no doubt a somewhat regular occurrence from now on). One day, there will be one and, like Obama is to Jesse Jackson, she will be to Hillary: a candidate who appeals to EVERYONE--beyond the pull of identity politics. And that one will be the first woman president.
--StevieN
(To reply, click here)
This whole feminist discussion re: the election bugs me primarily because we're all assuming that women, unlike men, don't evaluate candidates on criteria like policies and voting history...that the choice between Hillary and Obama is the choice between rebellion against your mother or kowtowing to your boyfriend. Come on, I thought feminism meant that we stopped treating the girls differently because they're girls! Where are all the articles about men afraid to openly support Obama out of fear of offending their feminist girlfriend? That's right, there aren't any, because everyone assumes that men are looking at candidates for qualities other than their genitals, or some deep psychological battle with their fathers, or approval by their peers.
--Jenniferwhatnot
(To reply, click here)
Nothing says boomer narcissism like identifying a particular problem in one's own sphere of understanding and deciding it must be entirely new and unique… It would take far too long to detail how western history and literature (from Oedipus to Henry IV to HW Plainview) has faithfully told and re-told the story of men rejecting the worlds and lives of their fathers. Certainly, it is a failure of Western culture to have for so long ignored the parallel stories of mothers and daughters, but to attribute to that story a uniqueness that denies the experiences of fathers and sons is to remake the mistakes of the dead white men that the second-wave feminists worked so hard to debunk.
--Dickey Roscombe
(To reply, click here)
Musings of a Republican feminist…I'm probably against most of what Hillary stands for on just about every subject. And yet... when I hear the kids talk about Hillary Clinton and not wanting to vote for her because she's shrill or bitchy or a nagging mom, it makes me want to go burn a bra! It's time we were judged by the content of our character and not the pitch of our voice when we speak! If I continue to hear the patronizing attacks against her based on the pitch of her voice or her appearance or her husband, I may just have to vote for her. Girls need to stick together sometimes.
--kamom
(To reply, click here)
(4/21)