
Santorum Can't DrawA tie in the first debate doesn't help the endangered senator.
Posted Sunday, Sept. 3, 2006, at 7:20 PM ETRick Santorum was the most vulnerable incumbent in the Senate going into his debate Sunday with Democrat Bob Casey. He still is. The exchange on Meet the Press was largely a wash, and that's not good for the Republican who is behind in the polls by as much as 18 points.
It's hard to imagine anything kinetic happening in a space also occupied by State Treasurer Bob Casey. If Santorum was occasionally excitable and edgy, Casey seemed like a negotiator coaxing someone in from the ledge. Both men tried to fix their image problems. The rap against Casey is that he's not a fighter, so he tried to look tough and spirited, turning theatrically to pose direct questions to his opponent. Santorum, who has the opposite problem, at times reacted passively. While Casey lectured, the incumbent stared off into the middle distance like a schoolboy enduring a scolding.
It's not that Santorum isn't trying to make things exciting. The foreign policy views he articulated are very exciting. With two ongoing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, he's itching for a confrontation with Iran. It's the central front in the war on terror, he argues, responsible for attacks against Israel and the sectarian violence in Iraq. He's more hawkish than the Bush administration, which he accused of being too soft on the regime. When moderator Tim Russert asked questions about Iraq, Santorum talked about its neighbor. "I don't know if it's a question of more troops or less troops," he said about the violence in Iraq. "I think the focus should not be Iraq; it should be Iran."
It was hard to tell whether Santorum was merely being excitable about Iran or using it to avoid talking about Iraq. He certainly has gotten ahead of himself on other issues in the past. It was Santorum who introduced the idea of man-and-dog love into a discussion about same-sex marriages. He called a news conference to declare that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq, only to have Pentagon officials slap down the claim. Talking about Iran and Islamic fascism helps him shift the debate. He can deflect Casey's criticisms about Iraq by saying his opponent doesn't understand the true nature of the global threat. "You believe we're going to win this battle [against terrorism] on the battle fields of Afghanistan and Iraq," he said to Casey. "I don't. I think we'll win or lose this war right here in America." Santorum's point seemed to be that the war against terrorism will be lost if Americans lose their will.
If Santorum didn't make his case very well, Casey offered only generalities when he talked about Iraq. He wants accountability for past mistakes and the Iraqi government to take on more responsibility for security. He doesn't want an immediate withdrawal of troops, but he wants benchmarks to measure progress, though he didn't suggest what kind. When Russert asked him whether he would have supported the war given what he knows now, I thought Russert was going to have to chase Casey around the desk to get a simple 'no.' He didn't talk about his view, but rather, what "a lot of Americans" believe. Finally, on Russert's fourth try, Casey said no, he would not have voted for the war knowing what he knows now.
The candidates also sparred over the budget, and taxes, and the morning-after pill (Casey is for it; Santorum isn't). Casey has promised he'll push to balance the federal budget in Washington but offered no specific spending cuts. He called for some generic corporate-welfare reforms and some tax cut rollbacks that won't get the job done. On the topic of Social Security reform both men were hopeless. Santorum offered personal accounts as if they would require no benefit reductions and Casey downplayed the nature of the entitlement problem.
The debate ended on local issues. Santorum has been under fire for living mostly in Washington rather than his home state. He defended his record working for Pennsylvania, citing approving remarks by the state's Democratic governor and said he lives in Washington to be with his wife and children. It was his best moment of the day. Casey defended his role in the volatile pay raise that in May led voters to toss 17 incumbents out of office. Santorum was aggressive, charging that as state treasurer, Casey could have fought the raise and didn't. Casey tried to smile past the issue, saying he was just "following the law." He repeated that mantra a few times too many, making it sound less like a statement of principle and more like Al Gore's "no controlling legal authority" dodge.
The pay-raise issue still has potency in the state, but I imagine that Pennsylvania voters who care about it have already made up their minds about whether they're going to penalize Casey. It's also a tough trick for the incumbent Santorum to use anti-incumbent fever against his opponent. But when you're behind, you'll try anything to shake up the race.
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Remarks from the Fray:
The real loser in the Santorum and Casey debate is Tim Russert. He allowed Santorum to go on and on without pressing him for an answer. Santorum also constantly interrupted when Casey was responding.
Russert also failed to mention that Santorum is the third ranking Republican in the Senate. While Casey is certainly known in Pennsylvania he doesn't have a national identity. To me, Santorum's position in the Senate means that he should be held accountable for Bush's disastrous policies. His position on the "morning after pill" as being really intended for abortions and his insistence that we have found the weapons of mass descruction (weapons left over from the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s) was simply ludicrous. I do agree with him, however that this pill should not be sold over the counter. Casey's bland comment "trust the science" made me want to ask him why. But Russert moved on.
I have been very disappointed in Tim Russert and these scheduled "debates" on Meet the Press. If you're going to have a debate make it meaningful. DSPAN does this very well.
--kaci
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While I happen to agree that there was no clear winner of the debate on the merits (although I think Senator Santorum was slightly better), I happen to disagree with John Dickerson's conclusion that a draw does't help Senator Santorum. If you go on any liberal blog, you will notice that liberal bloggers who posted after watching the debate were unhappy with Bob Casey's positions on Iraq and foreign policy in general.
Bob Casey can't be all things to all people. Part of his popularity and lead in opinion polls stemmed from voters not really knowing his stance on issues (the other part owing to voter's dislike of Santorum). Any opportunity where Senator Santorum can force Bob Casey to take positions on hot button issues will be advantageous in the election.
Bob Casey is to the right of the democratic party on both Iraq, abortion, and Iran. Voters who hate Santorum but who saw Casey's performance on Meet the Press and heard his stance on Iraq, may choose not to vote at all. Everyone knows where Santorum stands on issues, so he is unlikely to lose any supporters from the debate, the same cannot be said of Bob Casey.
--ireign
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This is probably the first time majority of Pennsylvanians have seen and heard Casey at length. Having my mother and brother living in PA an immediate thought came to mind.
1) I want to make something completely clear to the Democrats. My relatives may vote for this Democrat candidate, this Hillary/Lieberman/Republicanlite lookalike. But it is because they want the one party controlled government in Washington busted. NOT because they think this guy would do a good job of representing PA, or embraces policies that would actually take this Country in a different and positive direction.
2) Lining up for the "war without end" is broasting the Democrats on more than one issue. Russert went tough on Casey's call for fiscal responsibility. Russert wanted to know the plan. Casey immediately struck at tax cuts for the wealthy, and a couple of expected others. I think he was headed at corporate welfare, but that got preempted in the back and forth going on. Then Russert nailed him but good. He essentially said that Casey's suggestions were peanuts facing the annual and national deficit. And Russert was dead on.
If the Democrats are going to claim fiscal responsibility, they are going to have to come up with numbers. It is amazing that a model DLC/DNC candidate has no hard answers. Absolutely no doubt they get grand mileage from the current drunken spending. But they get no edge on the Repubs, if they don't talk hard cold facts.
Finally, my point. The "war" in Iraq costs $8 billion/month. That's a big number. And it doesn't include the umpteen % the Pentagon budget has been increased in the past 4 years, going directly to the "war". If we come up with a plan to dump the "war", we stop a major financial bleeder.
Final note. Santorum needs professional care. I don't think he has lost touch with the People of his home state. I think he has lost touch with the planet Earth. He genuinely wants us to forget about Iraq, and pile on Iran. Of course, I have read reports of this before. But you have to see him in person to get the real feel of his psychotic intensity over Iran. And, although Russert nailed him on the WMDs, it seems very clear that Santorum is going to keep repeating it.
Maybe Casey staying underground 'till now has been a good idea. Given enough time and coffee, Santorum is going to implode.
--sashal
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