John Lahr and August Wilson
Rush to Thought, Not Judgment
By John Lahr
Posted Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001, at 5:08 PM ETDear August,
This is the single greatest terrorist disaster in modern history, but is it, as a Republican representative has just now been quoted, "The second Pearl Harbor"? I hope it won't be, but you can see how it could easily escalate. I fear the American media-whispering gallery. I fear the hysteria in the American character, which splits so easily into good and bad, which rushes to judgment rather than to thought. The terrorists have taken aim at the American government and American capitalism and brought them both--symbolically at least--down. America, from the point of view of the terrorists, has been humiliated and brutalized as they feel they have felt humiliated and brutalized by America. I remember the day Kennedy was shot, when I was at Oxford. I was having dinner in the Oxford Union, and a group of Young Communists came in and were literally dancing with glee. I couldn't believe my eyes. I rushed from the room. There are millions of people who will not be sickened by today's outrage but thrilled by it. Here, Tony Blair has named terrorism "the new evil" and pointed out that "this is not just a battle between America and world terrorism, but the free and democratic countries of the Western World against world terrorism." Of course, he's right; but all the short stopgap efforts to restore calm--change of flight paths, cancellation of flights, all small planes grounded--are gestures to give the illusion that these events can be controlled. But you can't defend yourself, really, against a suicide bomber, anymore than an unproven $8.5 million defense shield that Bush is proposing could have. Among the many things that this event changes in the American landscape (the sense of safety and invincibility), I think, is our sense of freedom; we are going to have to trade some of our personal freedoms for personal safety.
Over the decades, I've become instinctively skeptical about the events that have burned themselves into our consciousness as watermarks of the era. We still don't really know who killed Kennedy or Martin Luther King; it took us a long time to find out the hidden agenda to the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Gulf of Tonkin "incident," which tipped us into Vietnam and a war we should never have fought. Perhaps it's eerie serendipity, perhaps it's my paranoia, but an acid thought keeps plaguing me. Isn't it odd that on the day--the DAY--that the Democrats launched their most blistering attack on "the absolute lunacy" of Bush's unproven missile-defense system, which "threatens to pull the trigger on the arms race," what Sen. Biden calls today in the Guardian, his "theological" belief in "rogue nations," that the rogue nation should suddenly become such a terrifying reality. The fact that I could even think such a thought says more to me about the bankruptcy and moral exhaustion of our leaders even in the face of a disaster where any action, in the current nightmare, will seem like heroism. But I do smell destabilizing violence in the wings. In fear, the nation, to my mind, has always proved mean-spirited and violent.
Over to you,
John
Rush to Thought, Not Judgment
By John Lahr
Posted Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001, at 5:08 PM ETJohn Lahr is senior drama critic for The New Yorker and author of 18 books. He recently co-authored, with Elaine Stritch, the play Elaine Stritch at Liberty
, which will premier at the Public Theater in New York City in October. August Wilson is the two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright who's best known for his 20th-century, decade-by-decade cycle of plays. Reader Comments From The Fray:
[Thursday Fray Notes: There were harsh words in the "Breakfast Table" Fray; many Fraysters were not happy with the writers' views. The hot topics were moral relativism and moral equivalence: Tom R said "At best August's metaphysics is chaff; at worst his moral relativism is straw fit only for stable bedding." WillV was using the word "obnoxious." Over at the defense table, Zeitguy said "The frenzy of jingoistic violence that is starting to choke off any possibility of intelligent discussion is more toxic than all the burning plastic insulation and jet fuel that is choking lower Manhatten," and ended up "When it comes to freedom of speech, I don't split hairs."
Meanwhile, news from two New York-based star posters: Claude Scales recounted his story here; and Thrasymachus, here.]
OK we've all had our chance to marvel at this notion that, because the hatred which terrorist organizations feel towards the US presumably has some sort of explanation, their actions are at least partially justified. We've all had the chance to notice, among other things, the equivocation between "explanation" and "justification" on which it rests.
But there's another marvel here-- that an argument of this sort should be raised at all by the sort of people who've been raising it. Wasn't it conventional wisdom in lefty circles, prior to Tuesday, that being motivated by hatred aggravates a crime rather than excusing it? Someone was pushing for all those hate-crime laws, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't me. If the trauma of Tuesday were to change anyone's mind on that issue, wouldn't a change in the opposite direction have been a lot likelier? I can understand how watching that day's deluge of horrors would make someone start believing in "hate crime" even though I don't believe in it myself. But how could it make someone stop?
It's getting harder and harder to escape the conclusion that nothing has changed; that the real criterion is, as it has always been, not the presence or absence of hate but rather the palatibility of whatever ideological message comes attached to the crime. If the message is "I hate gays", that's good for an extra sentence. But if it's "I hate America", you've got their respectful attention.
--Fully Brusque Man
(To reply, click here.)
[Tuesday Fray Notes: There was, of course, only one topic for discussion. Compared with some of the other threads, (and typical of the "Breakfast Table" Fray) there were fewer calls for revenge, and more serious thoughtful posts. Mike J quoted from W.H.Auden's great poem September 1 1939 here.]
Walking down Pennsylvania Ave toward the Archives Metro station I saw something that I've only seen in movies--people scrambling to "get the hell outta Dodge." Five lanes of a six lane two-way avenue were commandeered by traffic going in the same direction, and cars were creeping over into the last remaining lane. People are scared, and they should be. But, what I saw was only a half step down from the type of public hysteria where it's no holds barred, every man for himself.
The attacks on the WTC, State Department, and Pentagon, are no less than acts of war. The loss of life in New York is tragic. But, what bothers me most is that the terrorist acts have produced exactly the desired reaction. I'm typing from my home in a Maryland suburb because I left work early out of fear. And now I'm angry. I'm angry because the fear and confusion is exactly what the terrorist hopes to promote. I'm angry because the object of my anger isn't here in front of me where I can see justice done.
I'm most angered by the fact that the terrorist has been successful--whether or not his ultimate goal is achieved (I'm very confident that it won't be) he has already won a major victory...
--Tony Adragna
(To reply, click here.)
Fear is only your daily bread if you choose to eat it... No doubt America is filled with yammerheads who will bay and cry for other innocents to be killed in exchange for our dead innocents. Americans don't, or shouldn't, commit foul deeds to trade for foul deeds. Bury and mourn the dead, take a close look at who rejoices and who joins us in mourning, rebuild and repair. Only then after a steady and thoughtful hunt for the guilty and weighing of evidence should anyone begin to decide what to do. Tomorrow the sun rises for most of us, and the Post Office will be open, coffee will need to be brewed, etc.
--Neill Hamilton
(To reply, click here.)
What we are faced with is our society's--our civilization's--enemies, on whom we ought now to wage war without stint and war without pity. Globalization has limits; all of humanity does not go forward together after all. Some must be excluded, and that is cause for great sadness. There is every reason to think that this coming war will change our way of life in some regrettable ways, will make us less tolerant and optimistic. It will be the price of our future
--Joseph Britt
(To reply, click here.)
We cannot allow the reptilian part of our brains control our response to this atrocity. If we throw bombs at people who have nothing to do with this act we will confirm the opinion of our enemies that we are no better than the terrorists. The terrorists will then win recruits and support. We should ask ourselves two questions: (1) How can we obtain adequate proof of who is really responsible for this crime and take appropriate measures that do not harm innocent people? (2) Why are there people in the world as intelligent as these terrorists who hate us so much that they would commit this evil act and sacrifice their own lives in the process. "Nuke 'um" is not a response worthy of our country.
--Thomas D. Hennessy
(To reply, click here.)
(9/11)
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Reader Comments From The Fray:
[Thursday Fray Notes: There were harsh words in the "Breakfast Table" Fray; many Fraysters were not happy with the writers' views. The hot topics were moral relativism and moral equivalence: Tom R said "At best August's metaphysics is chaff; at worst his moral relativism is straw fit only for stable bedding." WillV was using the word "obnoxious." Over at the defense table, Zeitguy said "The frenzy of jingoistic violence that is starting to choke off any possibility of intelligent discussion is more toxic than all the burning plastic insulation and jet fuel that is choking lower Manhatten," and ended up "When it comes to freedom of speech, I don't split hairs."
Meanwhile, news from two New York-based star posters: Claude Scales recounted his story here; and Thrasymachus, here.]
OK we've all had our chance to marvel at this notion that, because the hatred which terrorist organizations feel towards the US presumably has some sort of explanation, their actions are at least partially justified. We've all had the chance to notice, among other things, the equivocation between "explanation" and "justification" on which it rests.
But there's another marvel here-- that an argument of this sort should be raised at all by the sort of people who've been raising it. Wasn't it conventional wisdom in lefty circles, prior to Tuesday, that being motivated by hatred aggravates a crime rather than excusing it? Someone was pushing for all those hate-crime laws, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't me. If the trauma of Tuesday were to change anyone's mind on that issue, wouldn't a change in the opposite direction have been a lot likelier? I can understand how watching that day's deluge of horrors would make someone start believing in "hate crime" even though I don't believe in it myself. But how could it make someone stop?
It's getting harder and harder to escape the conclusion that nothing has changed; that the real criterion is, as it has always been, not the presence or absence of hate but rather the palatibility of whatever ideological message comes attached to the crime. If the message is "I hate gays", that's good for an extra sentence. But if it's "I hate America", you've got their respectful attention.
--Fully Brusque Man
(To reply, click here.)
[Tuesday Fray Notes: There was, of course, only one topic for discussion. Compared with some of the other threads, (and typical of the "Breakfast Table" Fray) there were fewer calls for revenge, and more serious thoughtful posts. Mike J quoted from W.H.Auden's great poem September 1 1939 here.]
Walking down Pennsylvania Ave toward the Archives Metro station I saw something that I've only seen in movies--people scrambling to "get the hell outta Dodge." Five lanes of a six lane two-way avenue were commandeered by traffic going in the same direction, and cars were creeping over into the last remaining lane. People are scared, and they should be. But, what I saw was only a half step down from the type of public hysteria where it's no holds barred, every man for himself.
The attacks on the WTC, State Department, and Pentagon, are no less than acts of war. The loss of life in New York is tragic. But, what bothers me most is that the terrorist acts have produced exactly the desired reaction. I'm typing from my home in a Maryland suburb because I left work early out of fear. And now I'm angry. I'm angry because the fear and confusion is exactly what the terrorist hopes to promote. I'm angry because the object of my anger isn't here in front of me where I can see justice done.
I'm most angered by the fact that the terrorist has been successful--whether or not his ultimate goal is achieved (I'm very confident that it won't be) he has already won a major victory...
--Tony Adragna
(To reply, click here.)
Fear is only your daily bread if you choose to eat it... No doubt America is filled with yammerheads who will bay and cry for other innocents to be killed in exchange for our dead innocents. Americans don't, or shouldn't, commit foul deeds to trade for foul deeds. Bury and mourn the dead, take a close look at who rejoices and who joins us in mourning, rebuild and repair. Only then after a steady and thoughtful hunt for the guilty and weighing of evidence should anyone begin to decide what to do. Tomorrow the sun rises for most of us, and the Post Office will be open, coffee will need to be brewed, etc.
--Neill Hamilton
(To reply, click here.)
What we are faced with is our society's--our civilization's--enemies, on whom we ought now to wage war without stint and war without pity. Globalization has limits; all of humanity does not go forward together after all. Some must be excluded, and that is cause for great sadness. There is every reason to think that this coming war will change our way of life in some regrettable ways, will make us less tolerant and optimistic. It will be the price of our future
--Joseph Britt
(To reply, click here.)
We cannot allow the reptilian part of our brains control our response to this atrocity. If we throw bombs at people who have nothing to do with this act we will confirm the opinion of our enemies that we are no better than the terrorists. The terrorists will then win recruits and support. We should ask ourselves two questions: (1) How can we obtain adequate proof of who is really responsible for this crime and take appropriate measures that do not harm innocent people? (2) Why are there people in the world as intelligent as these terrorists who hate us so much that they would commit this evil act and sacrifice their own lives in the process. "Nuke 'um" is not a response worthy of our country.
--Thomas D. Hennessy
(To reply, click here.)
(9/11)