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What's the Moral Responsibility of Court-Appointed Guardians
Posted Thursday, July 19, 2001, at 1:27 PM ETWell, we're all the stuff of fiction, or are we real? I'm just doing my "Breakfast Table" duty, throwing out bait for you to grab or cause you to choke on your grapefruit. Was that a virtual grapefruit, a cyber prop, or a real one? And, more to the point, was it a Florida grapefruit?
Judging by my mood, I need to jump from the New York Times to the Daily News, whose headline is vintage tabloid: "From Caviar to Cat Food." "She could have been just another crazy old woman ..." but in fact "she" was the widow of Hans Hoffman, the famed Abstract Impressionist artist, and spent the last years hidden away in her (this is made for us--it's a little bit obit and a lot Florida) Bal Harbor home. Court-appointed guardians were not doing their duty but were in New York--where else?--collecting their fees.
The guardians were U.S. Trust--the same private bank that runs those ads that say "Admit it. You're rich," luring more victims--and its counsel, a Richard Covey. That is, they were until a Virginia Beach cop, Bob Roberts, whom she met through a friend she made in a mental home, convinced her to convince U.S. Trust, et al, to make Roberts her guardian ... and the end of the story (see the Daily News) wasn't so happy.
U.S Trust has settled a threatened lawsuit by paying $8.7 million to the Hoffman estate to answer to the widow's squalid death, alone and too mentally ill to care for herself.
I wonder what U.S. Trust's real, i.e., moral as opposed to financial, responsibility is here. My grandmother, whose father left her money in the hands of what was then Farmers' Trust, now Citibank, wasn't crazy like Renate Hoffman, but she was less than sane in regard to money (her father's reason for establishing an irrevocable trust), and I remember innumerable calls to her trust officer, making pleas to invade principal for less than sound reasons. She regarded the trust officer as a personal friend, sent holiday and birthday greetings, and the officer was a kind and reasonable person, but a stranger nonetheless. When I moved my grandmother from L.A. to New York, we went to the private banking offices so that I could meet the officer, a painful occasion for me because it pointed out my grandmother's loneliness and her vulnerability. The trust officer regaled me with funny trust stories, e.g., the person who wants to access funds to buy jewelry for her dogs, etc, and it was the first time I understood that bankers, who don't know a person, make judgment calls about their needs, including their emotional, sometimes intimate needs.
In the end, my grandmother was right: Her trust officer was a friend, and I reminded myself of this when I was in Paris a couple of years ago and watched my grandmother's elderly cousin make a call to his trust officer. Each of them, my grandmother and her cousin, were old enough (lonely enough?) that they didn't really understand the complex, impersonal bureaucracies of the world--the same way the elderly are prey for what look like personal telegrams telling them they can win millions.
But then, I remember reading that some of those people are suing as well. ...
What's the Moral Responsibility of Court-Appointed Guardians
Posted Thursday, July 19, 2001, at 1:27 PM ETReader Comments From The Fray:
[Notes from the Fray Editor: Richard Riley lives in flyover country and has only ever come across 'Jewess' in the book Ivanhoe. A-Z says Jewish practices are matrilineal, not matriarchal. Sean Fitzgerald doesn't know what the deal would be if the intern was black, and asks for enlightenment. Whither the "Breakfast Table"? Regular readers make their comments in this thread, and have suggestions for future participants.]
First of all, it isn't about the supposedly unique attractiveness of Jewish women. Both Clinton and Condit had relationships with other women who were not Jewish. The attractive quality was not Jewishess, but availability. These guys, especially Clinton, had limited opportunities to meet available women. So how are Jewish interns available to Democratic politicians? Two American cultural traditions play a role:
First, internships go to families connected to campaign contributors, and American Jews are disproportionately represented among large contributors to the Democratic party. No surprise that many Democratic interns come from Jewish families.
Second, there is an American Jewish tradition of supporting adult children through more years of education (including unpaid internships) than is standard in other U.S. cultural communities, even at comparable parental income levels. Some connect it to the yeshiva tradition in Eastern Europe, where supporting a scholar who never holds down a job was a matter of pride for an extended family. Why this tradition stuck over the generations even among the nonreligious is an interesting question. Both Chandra and Monica were still apparently supported by their parents well into their mid-twenties.
Put these factors together, and a high proportion of young democratic DC interns are Jewish. It's not a surprise that some of the women get involved with the bosses.
This pop sociology comes from the inside, as I was young and Jewish in the DC intern world myself once, and later a parentally-supported Jewish law student.
--Arthur Stock
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As I see it this "Breakfast Table" manages to give any Frayster a choice of ticking time bombs to try and disarm (or throw at other Fraysters). First, a discussion of the sexual mores of Jewish women. While I have identified a Jewish conspiracy to take all my money and life-force, the conspiracy appears limited to my wife and children. Moreover, a first person comment on whether I think Jewish women are easy for Presbyterian men, would leave me in a deeply compromised position if my wife read it. So I will boldly leave this issue alone. The raising of the second issue reminds me of a little boy who has forgotten what happens when you hit a hornets nest with a stick. So I will simply confine myself to saying that Republicans are low-life fascists who don't deserve to ever hold office in a free country.
--Neill Hamilton
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It doesn't help anybody to understand these situations by pretending that the women involved were empty little china dolls broken by big, bad men. I don't know what the deal is with Levy and Condit, but anyone who read that turgid Starr report saw that Monica Lewinsky was a participant, not a puppet, in what happened.
There are women who are attracted to power, and there are women who play on the shortcomings of powerful men for their own reasons. To suppose otherwise is to deny them the very three-dimensional existence that women's empowerment is supposed to provide. To suppose otherwise is to do a shocking disservice to the thousands of young women who cycle through Washington, DC, every year, working hard and getting ahead and never once thinking that it would be all right to sleep with a married man who insisted you not bring ID on your "dates."
--Shark
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