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Andy Dehnart, Wesley Morris, and Alex Pappademas
A Future Full of Perfect Sound Bites
Posted Wednesday, April 25, 2001, at 2:33 PM ETWesley,
It's all very White Noise, yeah. But it's also Underworld, with the Kentucky kids starring in their own Farelly brothers version of that book's "Texas highway killer" subplot.
Andy, I think the stunt they were copying was actually one that Johnny Knoxville performed in a home video put out by the skateboard magazine Big Brother. Knoxville used to write for the magazine and appeared in a few of these videos. I recommend the installment titled "Poop"--chances are you'll never see the footage of their "Depends Party" (don't ask) on basic cable.
You also bring up the idea of kids doing stupid stuff in order to get a few minutes of fame on their local news. Why not take it one step further--seeing as how the news tends to be more saturated with violence than, say, your average hour of MTV programming, what happens when kids start imitating stuff they see on the news? (I know: They'd have to start watching the news first.)
Or maybe they do watch the news--note that the kid who decried "sensationaliz[ing] for media attention" did it in a perfectly sound-bite-sized statement. In the future, everyone will give really good quotes.
Re the cultural oversaturation defense: After our conversation hit the Web on Monday, a friend harangued me over e-mail for not being sufficiently bothered by MTV's appropriation of the visual language of AIDS-activist art and advertising for self-promotional purposes. "[H]iv/aids PSAs," she wrote, "use a specific type of language to convey a specific message--and one that's hard to get the public to listen to. [T]rivializing that message--by co-opting the language--to sell a network just lessens the impact of the PSAs."
She had a point, and my only defense was that I hadn't thought about it from a moral standpoint at all, just a cultural one. I thought it was interesting--that's interesting as opposed to praiseworthy or cool--that anti-AIDS PSAs and Barbara Kruger's screaming-headline style had become part of our common visual vocabulary, to the point that MTV could yank their approach out of context and use it to promote a product.
But I was being an ironist about it. You know how sometimes you get hypnotized watching your socks whirl around in the dryer? It's easy to get that way about culture--to start seeing things as an continuous disco megamix of signs and signifiers, where everything points to everything else but actual people and actual pain don't matter.
It should probably trouble us--it troubles me, anyway--that this mindset is the end result of giving culture a close reading. We end up thinking of AIDS advertising as mere visual language, and a kid getting his leg broken on TV reminds me of Don DeLillo reminding me of Rodney King. Somebody has to shoot the pictures. I fought alongside Che Guevara, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
Meanwhile, from life imitating Jackass to the New York Observer imitating the Onion's recent "Nation's Breasts Prepare for Warm Weather" headline. Irono-licious.
AP
A Future Full of Perfect Sound Bites
Posted Wednesday, April 25, 2001, at 2:33 PM ETReader Comments From The Fray:
[Notes from the Fray Editor: President Bush on drilling, MTV and the youth market: same situation? Talk to WillV here. Thread your way through all the posts saying yes they do have the ads in Chicago (we know now, OK?) and find some posted lists: Zeitguy's Rools of Cool, Paul Caniff's answers to questions, and Gypsy's theory on disco. Jared White suggests Eggertian rather than Eggersesque. Check out the checkmarks for discussions on criticism and music. For more good stuff on film reviews read in full the fascinating posts from Steve Sailer and Aluminum Man (below). Done all that? Congratulations, you are now a complete popular culture Instant Expert. (Or a Breakfast Table Fray expert--same thing.)]
At the risk of sounding churlish--or rather, gleefully trying to sound churlish--the comment of your "Breakfast Table" writer about the Bush administration--"Essentially, they're politically motivated cowards" [Monday's entry]--demonstrates an acute lack of insight into, well, one of the great features of civilization. Politically motivated bravery is usually a suspect virtue--it led Napoleon into Russia, Hoover into a principled stand against "hand-outs," and Tom DeLay into being Tom DeLay. The real problem is that the Bushies face no bullying from the other side of the aisle: nobody who is willing to demagogue them, dog them, and dice them into the neutered conservatism which was Jr.'s daddy's trademark. In the weird mores of Washington, the dogger/dicer really doesn't have to have a national constituency--just a nasty taste for institutional infighting. If only Wellstone had Gingrich's taste for lowmindedness.
--Roger
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Having recently become the film critic for United Press International, I've been thinking a lot about these issues. The biggest problem with movie reviews in general is that reviewers are so homogenous--almost always male, white, upper middle class, with a grad degree in humanities or liberal arts, urban, high IQ, intellectual but not hugely logical or well-informed about things beyond the cultural realm like business or science or sociology, and extremely opinionated--that the tastes of huge demographic groups get ignored. I fall in most of those categories, too, but coming at a rather late age to this trade, I just don't as often experience anymore the testosterone surge that makes me want to shove my opinion down the throats of people who aren't like me.
For example, women. Over the years I've noticed that women generally don't like the same movies I like. That used to offend me greatly. I figured I could cure women of their bad taste in movies by exposing them to the really good stuff (i.e., what I liked) and explaining to them--over and over again--why it's better than the crap they liked. Slowly, though, I grew to respect women and their tastes more. I also learned that lots of other people aren't as smart as me and that making them watch what I liked to watch wasn't going to make them enjoy it more. Now, I take steps to help put myself in other peoples' shoes...
--Steve Sailer
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Most Tom Green fans (and I'm not one of them) will have already decided to see Freddy Got Fingered a long time ago, and nothing that reviews have said (or will say) makes any difference. The same is true of the upcoming Lord of the Rings trilogy or the last installments of the increasingly awful Star Wars series. In fact, contrary to what the Breakfast Tablers are suggesting, I think most people have their minds made up about whether or not to see any given movie long before reviews hits the stands.
What informed, thoughtful, articulate critics can do is make us see, hear and understand things in movies that we otherwise might miss. They can challenge us by forcing us to examine elements that we might otherwise pass over, and make us look at a movie from a perspective perhaps unlike our own.
--Aluminum Man
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