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Andy Dehnart, Wesley Morris, and Alex Pappademas

from: Wesley Morris

Cultural Oversaturation: The New Insanity Plea

Posted Wednesday, April 25, 2001, at 1:38 PM ET

Hey guys,

In addition, Alex, to that being a drool-inducing piece of writing, you've also reintroduced the dangerous cool of a show like Jackass to our discussion. The show, as you and I have rhapsodized away from "The Breakfast Table," resituates comedy in a highly organic but artful context that's almost the beautiful antithesis of the MTV aesthetic. There are no blazing, head-aching edits; every episode looks homemade, almost like it was picked up by MTV at a thrift store (are we seeing this on MTV only because shabby is chic?); and that soundtrack--Jesus, it's so mercifully anti-TRL. Though I wonder what effect the show would have if these pranks were rigged to, say, Samantha Mumba as opposed to Built To Spill. This is to say that the show would speak to an entirely different audience with a mere shuffle of the tunes.



But I think what Alex was arriving at was the way Jackass and its copycat jackasses are covered--with painstaking detail. Whoever missed the show late Sunday stood a pretty good chance of seeing the stunt at 6:30 like I did over and over. Whatever admiration I have for Johnny Knoxville and his traveling circus is tempered with the awareness that it's perceived as a direct cause of stupid adolescent behavior, the kind that's been going for decades. This all changes when you throw in a Sony handheld and a country teeming with news program lusting after another sensational teen tragedy. (Incidentally, Alex, I think that media nightmare you referenced so eloquently is from White Noise, but DeLillo's miasma of cultural dread wafts from the pages of one text to the other, so my memory may have fuzzed over, in which case I'm out of line.) Anyway, it's a highly flammable combo and that show, which admittedly is not that innocent, should lie somewhere outside the borders of blame but has the human for capacity responsibility. With that in mind, that kid's insistence the networks take a chill pill is heartbreaking and hilarious.

But Andy, don't drop your stuff out the window; someone will say you stole that from the last movie that sent a TV into a swimming pool. You guys make both make startlingly thorough points. Unfortunately, I have to run to a screening. But before I go, chew on this. We no longer have dreams because the culture dreams harder; we no longer own our behavior because the culture behaves first; our thoughts, our ideas, our suspicions belong to a Zeitgeist that will forever be our escape clause. The cultural oversaturation plea will replace the one for insanity. This, Andy, is what happen when the media go down on themselves.

Where is my mind? I expect an answer when I get back. Btw: Are we are all postmodernism's bitches?

from: Wesley Morris

Cultural Oversaturation: The New Insanity Plea

Posted Wednesday, April 25, 2001, at 1:38 PM ET
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Andy Dehnart publishes Reality Blurred, works as a Web producer and free-lance writer, and is pursuing a master of fine arts in nonfiction writing. Wesley Morris is a film critic at the San Francisco Chronicle. Alex Pappademas is an editor at Blender, a new music magazine.
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[Notes from the Fray Editor: President Bush on drilling, MTV and the youth market: same situation? Talk to WillV here. Thread your way through all the posts saying yes they do have the ads in Chicago (we know now, OK?) and find some posted lists: Zeitguy's Rools of Cool, Paul Caniff's answers to questions, and Gypsy's theory on disco. Jared White suggests Eggertian rather than Eggersesque. Check out the checkmarks for discussions on criticism and music. For more good stuff on film reviews read in full the fascinating posts from Steve Sailer and Aluminum Man (below). Done all that? Congratulations, you are now a complete popular culture Instant Expert. (Or a Breakfast Table Fray expert--same thing.)]


At the risk of sounding churlish--or rather, gleefully trying to sound churlish--the comment of your "Breakfast Table" writer about the Bush administration--"Essentially, they're politically motivated cowards" [Monday's entry]--demonstrates an acute lack of insight into, well, one of the great features of civilization. Politically motivated bravery is usually a suspect virtue--it led Napoleon into Russia, Hoover into a principled stand against "hand-outs," and Tom DeLay into being Tom DeLay. The real problem is that the Bushies face no bullying from the other side of the aisle: nobody who is willing to demagogue them, dog them, and dice them into the neutered conservatism which was Jr.'s daddy's trademark. In the weird mores of Washington, the dogger/dicer really doesn't have to have a national constituency--just a nasty taste for institutional infighting. If only Wellstone had Gingrich's taste for lowmindedness.

--Roger

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Having recently become the film critic for United Press International, I've been thinking a lot about these issues. The biggest problem with movie reviews in general is that reviewers are so homogenous--almost always male, white, upper middle class, with a grad degree in humanities or liberal arts, urban, high IQ, intellectual but not hugely logical or well-informed about things beyond the cultural realm like business or science or sociology, and extremely opinionated--that the tastes of huge demographic groups get ignored. I fall in most of those categories, too, but coming at a rather late age to this trade, I just don't as often experience anymore the testosterone surge that makes me want to shove my opinion down the throats of people who aren't like me.

For example, women. Over the years I've noticed that women generally don't like the same movies I like. That used to offend me greatly. I figured I could cure women of their bad taste in movies by exposing them to the really good stuff (i.e., what I liked) and explaining to them--over and over again--why it's better than the crap they liked. Slowly, though, I grew to respect women and their tastes more. I also learned that lots of other people aren't as smart as me and that making them watch what I liked to watch wasn't going to make them enjoy it more. Now, I take steps to help put myself in other peoples' shoes...

--Steve Sailer

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Most Tom Green fans (and I'm not one of them) will have already decided to see Freddy Got Fingered a long time ago, and nothing that reviews have said (or will say) makes any difference. The same is true of the upcoming Lord of the Rings trilogy or the last installments of the increasingly awful Star Wars series. In fact, contrary to what the Breakfast Tablers are suggesting, I think most people have their minds made up about whether or not to see any given movie long before reviews hits the stands.

What informed, thoughtful, articulate critics can do is make us see, hear and understand things in movies that we otherwise might miss. They can challenge us by forcing us to examine elements that we might otherwise pass over, and make us look at a movie from a perspective perhaps unlike our own.

--Aluminum Man

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