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Martha Hirschfield and Hanna Rosin
Getting To Be a Kid Again Yourself
Posted Wednesday, Jan. 10, 2001, at 10:56 AM ETGood Morning, Hanna,
Eli slept through the night. I fed him at about 6:45 in the evening, he went to bed at about 8 p.m., and he wasn't looking to eat again until 7:30 this morning. He has done a 12-hour stretch before, but it was from 4 p.m. to 4 a.m. and therefore not much help. And he once went from 9:30 at night to 6:45 in the morning, but that was back around Thanksgiving and such a fluke it doesn't count. This time, I really think he's on to something, and I am guardedly optimistic that this is behavior he can repeat.

Before you get too jealous, note that I said Eli slept through the night. I didn't come close. I was fine from about 10 p.m. until 3 a.m., but then I woke up hearing these vague, yakky-yakky noises on the baby monitor. I've become accustomed to them. I'm not sure what exactly he's doing, but he's probably half awake and either sucking loudly on his fingers or murmuring. Usually it means he's about ready to eat but not always. So I lie there, half in, half out, waiting for a more definite sign of hunger. Ended up dozing until 4 a.m. when my night owl husband finally came to bed. (That long lunch yesterday turfed his day, and he needed to work.) I'm sure I cat-napped some more, but by then I was pretty alert and so engorged that I couldn't lie on my stomach, which is my preferred position for falling asleep. Finally got out of bed at 7 a.m. to come downstairs and look at the Post. By the time he wanted to eat, I felt like I had breasts up to my collarbone.
As for the news, I was relieved to see that I wouldn't have to concoct more to say about Linda Chavez. Did you notice there were three mommy articles on the front page of the Post dealing with the health, safety, and entertainment of small children? First, USDA has conducted a study of various dieting regimes and confirmed what all moms know. If you want to lose weight and keep it off, you have to eat your fruits and veggies, consume small amounts of fat and moderate amounts of carbohydrate. I predict that this will have zero impact on the eating habits of 99 percent of Americans. Second, the government has published statistics on roll-over rates, finding SUV's pose a greater hazard of rolling over than other vehicles. Well, duh. This is something most moms should know, too, but again I predict that this will have zero impact on the vehicle purchasing behavior of 99 percent of new car buyers. What we really need to fix that problem is a good recession and/or a serious gas shortage. And, finally, new pandas debuting at the National Zoo. I can still count on one hand the number of times I've been to the zoo in the seven years I've lived here, but I predict that, courtesy of my new parent status, I am going to develop an enduring relationship with these new pandas. In fact, I can hardly wait until spring when I can take my young one out in his stroller and point to all the animals. I wouldn't even put it past me to purchase some adorable little bit of panda paraphernalia--more for me than for him, of course.
After all, what's the point of having kids if it doesn't give you the opportunity to be a kid again yourself--at least now and then?
XOX,
M
Getting To Be a Kid Again Yourself
Posted Wednesday, Jan. 10, 2001, at 10:56 AM ETReader Comments From The Fray:
[Notes from the Fray Editor: A lot of messages about birth control, and about penguins. Great discussion on childcare followed on from Paul Decker's post, below. Some readers--how can we put this?--weren't fully in sympathy with the Breakfast Table's new mothers: others were.]
I quote: "Drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: But what if Noa want to be a zoologist, specializing in penguins?" I suppose we need to cut new mommies some slack, but there aren't any penguins at all in the Arctic. How many hundreds of emails came in with this point? Sigh. Unfortunate, but there it is, the medium makes criticism so much easier. If this were print in the pre-internet era, then you might get two letters pointing out that penguins live down below in the Antarctic and are primarily food for leopard seals and so forth. But now, with Dear Editor only a click-on-reply away, the possibility of gazillions of outraged penguinphiles writing to you at once and crashing your server can't be called a mere possibility, but rather a stone cold certainty, and cold stones naturally brings me back to the odd fascination penguins have with pebbles, which they stack in little heaps. Nearly 15 years ago, when the oldest of the offspring was a newly gooing bundle and I was the only dad in the park with a stroller, I decided to do something once a day in the company of grownups, so as not to go berserk. I wound up taking Intro Chinese. The rest is rock and roll history, and here I am in Beijing, with three and a half years already spent here in a couple of big chunks, and all four sons fluent in Mandarin Chinese-- two in fact taking end of term Chinese tests as I write-- and all because when Martin was born, there was no internet, there was no Breakfast Table, there was no email inbox, there was no Instant Messenger. Congratulations on the birth of your wee one. Says I, father and primary child care provider for nearly a decade and a half, there is nothing better. Nothing comes close.
--Mike Connelly
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A pacifier is not pure distraction. It has mystical properties. I believe the sucking actually produces changes in the child's neurochemistry. The problem is how to get the damn things away from them. My 2 and three-quarter month old daughter worships her pacifiers--she literally builds shrines to her pacifiers. Help!
--David Edelstein
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Pacifier elimination is the first cold turkey parenting situation. Later will come unlimited cable TV and internet privileges. Depending on how phone services are billed in your locality, phone call privileges may go the way of the pacifiers for some period of time so that school work can get done on time. If you are lucky to not have free local calling, you can just make them pay for the itemized charges which usually makes them stop calling their friends all night long.
The cute thing about teenagers is that they whine the same way they did as two year olds when you took away the pacifiers.
--Tom R.
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New mother Hanna has not spent enough time reading trashy women's novels. They often make reference to abortifacients, usually after the heroine gives it up to the hero in some ill-advised fashion, gets pregnant, and tries to keep it a secret. Fun things like wacky combinations of herbs. Even better, the birth control measures! Sponges soaked with vinegar!
As far as the Pill being an abortifacient as well as a preventive measure: it does prevent ovulation, as Momma Hirshfeld points out. However, it provides a backup plan as well. If you do ovulate anyway, the fertilized egg cannot implant into the uterine wall. So, technically, a potentially viable pregnancy is ended. The key word is technically - certain people, such as Ashcroft, will make any argument rather than accept that people should have control over their own bodies. Why do certain Republicans think the government should no power over our monetary decisions, but should have total control over our biological ones?
--Laura
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Apparently Martha was able to find a place in a decent child care center because of her affiliation with a federal agency. But what of the vast number of other families without access to such resources? Preschool child care is a state issue (except in the federal District of Columbia), but as far as I know, no state is doing anything to support it. Yet, there has been no organized movement to do anything to change this, either by getting state support for private preschools or by any other means (though there are plenty of efforts to get state support for private schools, and they aren't all religious).
I have thought from time to time that raising child care work from its current low-paid ghettoization in the dot-com economy would be a unifying cause that liberals, moderates, and even some conservatives would embrace. It hasn't happened yet, but I haven't given up hope.
--Paul Decker
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