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Cynthia Cotts and Dan Kennedy

The Next Nam?

Posted Thursday, April 27, 2000, at 11:53 AM ET

Dan,

Thanks for indulging my nostalgia--I just knew you were holding back those repressed memories of the '70s. I was antiwar, too, scrawling "Out of Cambodia, Now" on my three-ring binder in seventh grade ... but let's not go there. Better to focus on Kissinger, who will probably never be held to account for his actions in Cambodia and Chile. Did you read the Christopher Hitchens column last year, reporting a priceless Kissinger quip? The story went like this: Introduced to a Nation editor at a party, Kissinger said, "The Nation? So I suppose that to you I am a war criminal."

"Yes," she said, "but we call Clinton a war criminal, too."

"Mr. Clinton," Kissinger intoned, "does not have the strength of character to be a war criminal."

I'm with you on the power of Vietnam photos, and so direct your attention to People magazine, whose Vietnam issue is not as cheesy as you might think. Check out their "Interactive Photo Timeline," boasting oldies-but-goodies like the Kent State photo and Hanoi Jane (in her Klute look, which I adore). More daring was Seth Mydans' story in the New York Times. He hunted down North Vietnamese men who shot the war and posted their rare snapshots here.

Moving on to Colombia: If all goes according to plan, Clinton might get a chance to prove himself a war criminal yet. Apparently you agree that the drug-war hawks on Capitol Hill make crack dealers look like moral paragons. But then why is mainstream media giving them such a free ride? I recommend two authors well-versed on Colombia: Alma Guillermoprieto, who's been to the trenches and just filed her third in a series for the New York Review of Books, and Arianna Huffington, whose March 14 column on Colombia is the best thing I've read on the backroom politics yet. Her points were amplified in a Newsweek story April 3. Surprise, surprise: Mike Isikoff and company call the Colombia initiative the result of "lobbying efforts by arms producers," who will pay big bucks to get product placement for their helicopter and radar planes south of the border.

As Isikoff and Huffington run down the special interests vested in the drug war, both tar Occidental Petroleum, whose controversial oil drill near the U'wa Indian reservation in Colombia has gone largely unreported in the mainstream press. (Larry Rohter's Colombia report in the Times last week gave no hint U.S. corporations are calling the shots.) Dan, the more I think about it, the more I think this might be a story for Jake Tapper! Let him know when he gets back from Hanoi.

Gently,
Cynthia

The Next Nam?

Posted Thursday, April 27, 2000, at 11:53 AM ET
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Cynthia Cotts writes the "Press Clips" column for the Village Voice. Dan Kennedy is the senior writer and media criticfor the Boston Phoenix.
COMMENTS

Reader Response from The Fray--to be read after the final entry:


All wars are horrible, but they are also each individually different. The situation in Colombia is different from Cambodia and also from Vietnam [Thursday's entry]. You would have more chance of convincing me that intervention in Colombia is wrong (I am 3/4 of the way there already so it's worth your time) if you actually have a reason based upon the situation in Colombia, not a facile, over-used and cheapened parallel.

And, never make the mistake of thinking that just because you were "brave" enough to burn a useless draft card while under the influence of pot, and the other one of you was insulated from ever being called to service by your gender, you have any moral superiority over the millions who, in the U.S., in South Vietnam and in North Vietnam answered the call of their countries and laid down their lives, by choice, by necessity or by sheer love for their patrimony.

Your exchange seems to put your actions and opinions on some pedestal of superior morality. You both seemed to distrust and look down upon the U.S. military. What have you done in your adult lives, as you shuttle around the East Side, dine at Nobu and read all the papers, to actually stop genocide, promote peace, distribute food to famine victims, rescue flood victims, prevent cholera, alleviate some increment of suffering at home or abroad?

You come walk in my boots with me, you come to Kosovo, not just on a breezy 3-day VIP tour, but you really come and do some good, then you can write about what you think about war and who are war criminals and who aren't. Go sit in on the tribunals in The Hague. You come look a real war criminal in the eyes, and then you can talk about Henry Kissinger and Bill Clinton. Then you will know the intellectual dishonesty you are perpetrating when you toss those terms around.

I regret I cannot sign with my rank and name, but I have given up certain of my freedoms in order to serve. Would you? Am I somehow less than you, morally, intellectually, or spiritually, because I have? I don't think so. I volunteered for the Balkans because it is the right thing to do. I try every day to put my money where my mouth is and to live by my ideals. Can you say the same? And, by the way, I am a woman. Men do not have a monopoly on the army, honor, or service to the country.

--AM

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As an oncologist I can assure you that if, indeed, Rudy Giuliani's cancer was discovered by routine PSA testing in an early stage [Thursday], prostate cancer is usually curable with surgery or radiation therapy. The patient is incapacitated for several weeks at the most. (Of course, the medical "truth" in these cases is not often shared with the press.)

I see no reason why he can't run. Remember that Dole ran for president with a history of prostate cancer. On the other hand, I can't help but think that Bill Bradley's atrial fibrillation gave many voters pause in buying his image of an in-shape kinda guy.

--S.R.Lemkin, MD

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There are certainly legitimate arguments to be made against the seizure of Elian from the household of Lazaro Gonzalez, but Kennedy doesn't make them [Tuesday's entry]. Instead, he salutes those who think his way, insults those who don't, and throws around inaccurate terminology about the events themselves. And that's only one paragraph.

--Howard Litwak

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Now that Elian is with his father, the Miami relatives look like a particularly loathsome bunch of opportunists who are refusing to accept their own irrelevance. Their continued struggle reminds me of that old Simpsons episode where the quack lawyer comes out and says, "Your honor, I would like to cite the case of Finders versus Keepers."

Meanwhile: Has anyone noticed that the names of everyone in the Elian saga sound oddly fictionalized, as if they were all in a particularly bad symbolic novel? Donato Dalrymple (why didn't Agatha Christie think of that?), Elian, Marisleysis--and this is the kicker--the uncle that presumably "revived" Elian is named Lazaro. The whole thing sounds like a metadrama where the characters suddenly step off the stage and become real people. I bet Dickens is turning over in his grave right now.

--Dola

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How high do you think the approval ratings for Clinton and Reno will rise after the latest GOP witchhunt? During Monica-gate, Clinton's approval rating went to something like 70 percent. Now in these latest hearings, after the sanctimonious Connie Mack or Arlen Specter tear into Janet Reno, who will be sitting there calmly, her arm shaking from MS, and then telling these hypocritical morons that the Miami family had no legal right to hold the child when his father was in the country wanting him back, explaining that law enforcement officers sometimes, gasp, carry guns, and break down doors in a hostile situation--well, I think it will go over 70 percent. As a Democrat, I say, "Thank you GOP for your continuing tin ear and disregard for the wishes of the American public."


--J. B. Kelly

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I suggest the writers and the readers try to refrain from talking about Elian and discuss something else--maybe the two Koreas, maybe the National Zoo shooting, the 20% fall of the Euro since its inception, or the crisis in Zimbabwe--will it affect your vacation plans this summer? More coverage of the topic, on either side, is just making it worse.

--L

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Re: Political campaigning and young people, Wednesday's entry. My students have heard the message of the Democrats and Republicans loud and clear. The Democrats say the Republicans are crooks. The Republicans say the Democrats are crooks. My students believe both of these messages implicitly, and ask the very reasonable question, "Why should I vote when all politicians are crooks?" It's the Prisoner's Dilemma. If only one party goes for negative campaigning, they win. If both parties go for negative campaigning, democracy goes down the tubes. But Al Gore and George W. Bush need to wake up and realize that among people 35 and younger, by far the most respected politician in the country is Jessie Ventura. How does it feel to be viewed as less honest than a professional wrestler?

--Rick Norwood

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(4/28)


Re: Jim Cramer, Monday's entry. "Incoherent raving"? "End-of-the-world diatribes"? I don't know what articles you read (if you did), but it couldn't have been the two you cited in your rather gratuitous swipe at Cramer. These articles don't say anything different from what he has consistently said for the past 2 years. He has provided an excellent view of what he sees as a day-to-day trader, and I have found his information to be accurate and valuable. Yes, he is opinionated, and can be downright obnoxious at times, but on the several occasions when I have exchanged email with him (yes, he does answer his email!) he has never told me anything but the unvarnished truth.

--Sid Wade

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[Dan Kennedy clarified his remarks in Wednesday's entry.]

(4/25)

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