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Obama needs to start acting like an American
by gmajesko
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When Obama travels he apologizes and tells people we are just like them.

WE ARE NOT. We are exceptional---we are the only superpower-we stand behind those who want to be free of tyrany, persecution, genocide-we came to aid of Europe twice(Wilson and FDR-the USA was never attacked by the Germans; the Japanese attacked us and the Muslim extemist attacked us). Americans helped reduce the spread of HIV in Africa (G W Bush). We eliminated a dictator who murdered a million people (Sadaam). We got rid of Communism in eastern europe (Reagan). We helped Japan and Germany become capitalistic, but socialistic democaracies. We helped Israel from extinction. We stabilized middle America and South America. We improved the situation in Iraq and Afganistan for women, children, and the average citicizen. (Bush). We developed relations with China, now our largest finacier(Nixon).

WHY ARE WE APOLOGIZING? I would like a President to tell the world what we have done, over and over again, and tell them we have never taken territory after a war in 100 yrs, always reconstructed where we destroyed and have shared our technology, our culture with all those who choose to share,

Those who hate America (many live here) are either jealous or have bought into the Obama's "just society" ideology. America owes us nothing. As Kennedy said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country".

To President Obama: Please man up and grow a pair.

gmajesko needs to stop whining
by middleview

When did Obama apologize? Give me an example of any speech that he said "I'm sorry for...." or "We're sorry that we"....

By the way. The Germans declared war on the US first. Not the other way around. I suppose we could have ignored that. Is that what you are suggesting?

We did eliminate a dictator who killed about a million people. He killed them when Reagan was president and, not only did Reagan do nothing about Saddam gassing the Kurds, he helped Saddam develop his WMD program.

We did out last communism in Eastern Europe. You want to give credit to Reagan, but it was Truman who held Berlin against the communist blockade. It was Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson who maintained massive troop levels in Europe. It was Truman who sent troops to roll back the North Korean invasion. It was also Truman who, using the Marshall plan, rebuilt Europe.

We also overthrew elected governments in Iran, Chile, Honduras, Nicaragua.....

It would be nice to think that we are perfect, but we are not. Obama has not apologized for anything as much as he has agreed that there have been mistakes on all sides. Putting things in context is a good way to get past the one sided memories of those who hate us and it is working.

Re: Obama needs to start acting like an American
by celtic6

Here's one top ten list. <link>

Obama has actually been very tough and unapologetic to one country - Israel, the one democracy in Middle East. Also England has received a number of Obama snubs. The emerging "Obama doctrine" seems to be to kow tow to adversaries and jerk around your friends.

Re: Obama needs to start acting like an American
by William Diaz

GMA and Celtic,

You are both woefully ignorant and uninformed. Really, when you do something screwed up, you say you are sorry and try to make amends. Throught the process of reconciliation and political maturity, the US was able to turn its 2 most implacable enemies (the Germans and Japanese) into their greatest allies and trading partners.

Throught the previous 8 years of Texasism, of not reasoning, or thinking, demonstrating retraint, engaging in concensus building and the like, we have sown the seeds of the destruction of the American Empire. Or, more likely, you and your ilk sowed the seeds, I didnt vote for GW, I used to live in Texas, I know how stupid and worthless he was/is.

I personally find the humility and the willingness to admit to our mistakes and try to find common ground to be positive and refreshing, as well more American than the behavior of his predecessor.

Also, Isreal isnt, as you put it, the only democracy in the Middle East, as you put it. Read up a little, you might learn something. It is the only country in the Middle East completely and entirely dependent on handouts from the US. I dont think of them as anyone who is our friend anymore, as their interests and behavior has become too divergent from our own. I believe this despite once almost excercising the right of return and joining the IDF...

Have a great day!

Those are apologies?
by middleview

No kiddin'. I didn't see anywhere in that link where Obama says anything like we are sorry.

Correctly evaluating where relations have been damaged by the mistakes of one side or the other is not an apology. Look up the meaning of the word.

Re: Obama needs to start acting like an American
by todji
Why do conservatives get such a kick out of pounding there chests like gorillas? How did they lose the capability for all subtlety? The GOP- the party of short-sighted armchair war mongers.
I need to post the Obama apologies
by gmajesko

It has to be done to shut up this turd:

1. Apology to France and Europe ("America Has Shown Arrogance")

Speech by President Obama, Rhenus Sports Arena, Strasbourg, France, April 3, 2009.[1]

So we must be honest with ourselves. In recent years we've allowed our Alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.

2. Apology to the Muslim World ("We Have Not Been Perfect")

President Obama, interview with Al Arabiya, January 27, 2009.[2]

My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect. But if you look at the track record, as you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there's no reason why we can't restore that.

3. Apology to the Summit of the Americas ("At Times We Sought to Dictate Our Terms")

President Obama, address to the Summit of the Americas opening ceremony, Hyatt Regency, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, April 17, 2009.[3]

All of us must now renew the common stake that we have in one another. I know that promises of partnership have gone unfulfilled in the past, and that trust has to be earned over time. While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms. But I pledge to you that we seek an equal partnership. There is no senior partner and junior partner in our relations; there is simply engagement based on mutual respect and common interests and shared values. So I'm here to launch a new chapter of engagement that will be sustained throughout my administration.

The United States will be willing to acknowledge past errors where those errors have been made.

4. Apology at the G-20 Summit of World Leaders ("Some Restoration of America's Standing in the World")

News conference by President Obama, ExCel Center, London, United Kingdom, April 2, 2009.[4]

I would like to think that with my election and the early decisions that we've made, that you're starting to see some restoration of America's standing in the world. And although, as you know, I always mistrust polls, international polls seem to indicate that you're seeing people more hopeful about America's leadership.

I just think in a world that is as complex as it is, that it is very important for us to be able to forge partnerships as opposed to simply dictating solutions. Just to try to crystallize the example, there's been a lot of comparison here about Bretton Woods. "Oh, well, last time you saw the entire international architecture being remade." Well, if there's just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy, that's an easier negotiation. But that's not the world we live in, and it shouldn't be the world that we live in.

5. Apology for the War on Terror ("We Went off Course")

President Obama, speech at the National Archives, Washington, D.C., May 21, 2009.[5]

Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. I believe that many of these decisions were motivated by a sincere desire to protect the American people. But I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us--Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens--fell silent.

In other words, we went off course. And this is not my assessment alone. It was an assessment that was shared by the American people who nominated candidates for President from both major parties who, despite our many differences, called for a new approach--one that rejected torture and one that recognized the imperative of closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay.

6. Apology for Guantanamo in France ("Sacrificing Your Values")

Speech by President Obama, Rhenus Sports Arena, Strasbourg, France, April 3, 2009.[6]

Our two republics were founded in service of these ideals. In America, it is written into our founding documents as "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." In France: "Liberté"--absolutely--"egalit­é, fraternité." Our moral authority is derived from the fact that generations of our citizens have fought and bled to uphold these values in our nations and others. And that's why we can never sacrifice them for expedience's sake. That's why I've ordered the closing of the detention center in Guantanamo Bay. That's why I can stand here today and say without equivocation or exception that the United States of America does not and will not torture.

In dealing with terrorism, we can't lose sight of our values and who we are. That's why I closed Guantanamo. That's why I made very clear that we will not engage in certain interrogation practices. I don't believe that there is a contradiction between our security and our values. And when you start sacrificing your values, when you lose yourself, then over the long term that will make you less secure.

7. Apology before the Turkish Parliament ("Our Own Darker Periods in Our History")

Speech by President Obama to the Turkish Parliament, Ankara, Turkey, April 6, 2009.[7]

Every challenge that we face is more easily met if we tend to our own democratic foundation. This work is never over. That's why, in the United States, we recently ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed. That's why we prohibited--without exception or equivocation--the use of torture. All of us have to change. And sometimes change is hard.

Another issue that confronts all democracies as they move to the future is how we deal with the past. The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution. Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.

Human endeavor is by its nature imperfect. History is often tragic, but unresolved, it can be a heavy weight. Each country must work through its past. And reckoning with the past can help us seize a better future.

8. Apology for U.S. Policy toward the Americas ("The United States Has Not Pursued and Sustained Engagement with Our Neighbors")

Opinion editorial by President Obama: "Choosing a Better Future in the Americas," April 16, 2009.[8]

Too often, the United States has not pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors. We have been too easily distracted by other priorities, and have failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas. My Administration is committed to the promise of a new day. We will renew and sustain a broader partnership between the United States and the hemisphere on behalf of our common prosperity and our common security.

9. Apology for the Mistakes of the CIA ("Potentially We've Made Some Mistakes")

Remarks by the President to CIA employees, CIA Headquarters, Langley, Virginia, April 20, 2009.[9] The remarks followed the controversial decision to release Office of Legal Counsel memoranda detailing CIA enhanced interrogation techniques used against terrorist suspects.

So don't be discouraged by what's happened in the last few weeks. Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That's how we learn. But the fact that we are willing to acknowledge them and then move forward, that is precisely why I am proud to be President of the United States, and that's why you should be proud to be members of the CIA.

10. Apology for Guantanamo in Washington ("A Rallying Cry for Our Enemies")

President Obama, speech at the National Archives, Washington, D.C., May 21, 2009.[10]

There is also no question that Guantanamo set back the moral authority that is America's strongest currency in the world. Instead of building a durable framework for the struggle against al Qaeda that drew upon our deeply held values and traditions, our government was defending positions that undermined the rule of law. In fact, part of the rationale for establishing Guantanamo in the first place was the misplaced notion that a prison there would be beyond the law--a proposition that the Supreme Court soundly rejected. Meanwhile, instead of serving as a tool to counter terrorism, Guantanamo became a symbol that helped al Qaeda recruit terrorists to its cause. Indeed, the existence of Guantanamo likely created more terrorists around the world than it ever detained.

So the record is clear: Rather than keeping us safer, the prison at Guantanamo has weakened American national security. It is a rallying cry for our enemies.

Re: Thanks for posting those ten points,
by HAP

or apologies, or whatever. I think I am in agreement with President Obama on each point.

Re: I need to post the Obama apologies
by middleview

Not once did Obama say "I'm sorry." He never said "We apologize".

He correctly stated where one side or another has been wrong. Was anything he said incorrect? Nope.

It would seem you like an idiot like Bush running around struggling to form complete sentences.

Re: I need to post the Obama apologies
by scrappy79
I really don't get what your problem is. If you have specific rebuttals to each of Obama's claims, you should make them. If you think the historical mistakes he mentions did not happen, the U.S. government is infallible and we can make no errors in our foreign policy, you should say so. If you think that the U.S. government does make mistakes, but that we should pretend otherwise to international audiences and insist that they are the problem and they should shape up their lives because we are perfect, well, OK. I don't know why anyone would want their government to behave in ways we wouldn't tolerate from a five-year-old, but if that's the kind of country you think we should have, I suppose that's an opinion.
Obama apologies?
by middleview

I'd guess that gmajesko doesn't really understand the word apology.

I would also venture to guess that he will not respond to your request for some kind of intelligent rebuttal to what Obama has had to say.

Re: I need to post the Obama apologies
by EbenCooke
Gmajesko... I read you cut-and-paste -- which you clearly did not do. If you had, you'd have seen that the only thing resembling an apology is the set of labels you pasted in front of Obama's words. Can't you even READ your stuff for yourself. We ca only suppose that your talk- show host has "explained" for you that there's an apology hidden somewhre in there. Can you offer any sort of rebuttal to Obama's words? I doubt it.
republicans need to start acting like adults
by middleview
but I won't hold my breath.
Re: Thanks for posting those ten points,
by magdalena_

Me too. If we had more Obamas, we could exchange le petit Nicolas or the Schwabian housewife even for a 1/2 Obama guy. That would be more than sufficient!

Re: Obama needs to start acting like an American
by EASYRIDER
You don't get any more American than Obama. He came from modest beginnings and worked his way up through education and hard work. Sounds like a stand up American that every Republican should be proud of. After all isn't that exactly what the Republicans preach? Pick yourself up by your own bootstraps. Obama is just trying to turn a most un-level playing field into a level playing field.
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