On the second of today’s Spoiler Special podcasts, Slate film critic Dana Stevens talks with Slate political reporter David Weigel about Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Matt Reeves’ sequel to 2011’s Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Is the film actually an allegory for Middle Eastern conflict? Does the film have something to say about gun control? And is this the summer’s best blockbuster?

Listen to them discuss these and other questions below. You can also check out past Spoiler Specials in our archive, and you can subscribe to the podcast on iTunes. Note: As the title indicates, each installment contains spoilers galore.

Previous Spoiler Specials
Boyhood
Snowpiercer
Orange Is the New Black, Season 2
Maleficent
Godzilla
Under the Skin