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  • Mukasey, Justice, and Emily


    Emily’s brief post raises several fascinating questions, which seem to me to warrant fleshing out. The key sentence is the following: “if the government executes these men [the 9/11 plotters] after the coercive interrogation (torture) some of them experienced and all the failings of the this-ride-only military tribunals set up to try them, the damage Guantanamo has done to the reputation of our justice system will be raised by a power of ten.” But that specter, she writes may concentrate the mind. So “maybe the threat of the death penalty is the best hope that they will get some semblance of real due process.”

     

    So here are my questions—to Emily and to all:

     

    1)      Whatever people think of the death penalty, should the circumstances of these detainees’ interrogation ameliorate their sentences? I can see why we would want to suppress evidence obtained under duress. I’m not sure I see why being coercively interrogated—even tortured—lessens one's culpability for September 11, assuming that culpability can be proven without relying on evidence obtained improperly.

    2)      Are we really so confident that these tribunals are incapable of delivering a semblance of real due process? Are they really that different from other ad hoc tribunals countries have set up to deal with extraordinary international criminal trials? Nuremberg, after all, was a this-ride-only military tribunal and we think of it as a triumph of international justice. Do we really think fair trials are impossible under the Military Commissions Act and, if so, why?

    3)      What would “real due process” look like for these defendants at this time?

  • Mukasey's S&M Fears


    Like Ben and Eric, I felt a certain appreciation for Mukasey's odd riff about how he "kind of hope[s]" the 9/11 plotters don't get the death penalty because they're like masochists who want it, which would make the US a sadist in doling it out. First of all, he's right. And also, if the government executes these men after the coercive interrogation (torture) some of them experienced and all the failings of the this-ride-only military tribunals set up to try them, the damage Guantanamo has done to the reputation of our justice system will be raised by a power of ten. I wonder, though, if in some upside-down way it's useful that the government is seeking the death penalty. Nothing concentrates the mind like a killing, including, perhaps, the minds of the military appointees and eventually (one hopes) Supreme Court justices who would have to allow these executions to take place. So maybe the threat of the death penalty is the best hope that they will get some semblance of real due process. Distressing as that is, it's better than the alternative.
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