Working

How Does a Professional Wrestler Do His Job?

Meet Bull James, an independent professional wrestler and trainer.

Bull James.

Photo illustration by Slate. Photo via Bull James.

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This week, Jordan talks with Bull James, a longtime pro wrestler and former WWE personality who now performs on the independent circuit while working as the head trainer at New York Wrestling Connection. Bull (real name: James Smith) tells Jordan about his path into the ring,the “punk rock” business of independent wrestling, how he orchestrates a match, and how he handles getting hit with a spiked baseball bat.

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Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.