The Trump-Cohen tape is a big deal for a not-so-obvious reason.

The Subtext of the Trump-Cohen Tape

The Subtext of the Trump-Cohen Tape

Getting to know the real Donald Trump.
July 25 2018 6:50 PM

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Virginia Heffernan talks to Emily Jane Fox, a senior reporter at Vanity Fair, about the Trump-Cohen tape that was released on Tuesday, its implications, and why if you don’t understand the relationship between those two men, you don’t understand Trump’s relationship with anybody.

Plus, the new “hip” form of journalism over at AMI.

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Virginia Heffernan is a contributing editor at Politico. Follow her on Twitter.