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Josh King talks to Jim Warren, the chief media writer at the Poynter Institute for Media Studies, about the competition between the Washington Post and the New York Times. How are those two organizations handling the attacks coming from Donald Trump and his administration, and what might the future hold for both papers?
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Podcast production by Jayson De Leon.
Update, Aug. 12, 2017: This episode was split into two parts. Part 2 will be available on Sunday morning.