E. J. Dionne on how to beat Donald Trump.

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Fighting Populism With Patriotism

E. J. Dionne explains why we can’t beat Trump by running away from nationalism.

Members of the Dallas Cowboys link arms and kneel during the National Anthem before the start of the NFL game against the Arizona Cardinals at the University of Phoenix Stadium on September 25, 2017 in Glendale, Arizona.
Members of the Dallas Cowboys link arms and kneel during before the start of a game against the Arizona Cardinals on Sept. 25 in Glendale, Arizona.

Photo illustration by Slate. Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images.

Listen to Populism and Patriotism:

Yascha Mounk and E. J. Dionne discuss the causes of the rise of populism, why patriotism is the correct antidote to white nationalism, and how to beat Donald Trump.

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This podcast was made in collaboration with New America.

Podcast production by John T. Williams.