If Then

FISA and Fury

National security expert Marcy Wheeler explains the hypocrisy behind the Nunes memo.

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On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about a new anti-tech lobbying group formed by former employees of Facebook and Google. They update us on Waymo v. Uber, the trial that could chart the course for our self-driving future. And they’re joined by Marcy Wheeler, an independent journalist and longtime expert on national security and civil liberties, to re-examine FISA and mass surveillance in the wake of the Nunes memo.

Stories discussed on the show:

Verge: The Battle of the Damning Emails Begins With Waymo v. Uber Opening Statements

New York Times: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form Coalition to Fight What They Built

Vice: All the Key Details Republicans Left Out of Their Famous Memo

HuffPost: The Nunes-Ryan Civil Liberties Sham

Don’t Close My Tabs:

New York Times: Making a Crypto Utopia in Puerto Rico

New York Times: A Driver’s Suicide Reveals the Dark Side of the Gig Economy

Podcast production by Max Jacobs.

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