Congress’ look into social media and election meddling, and an interview with former Facebook ad engineer Antonio García Martínez.

Trash Moths to the Trash Flame: A Facebook Story

Trash Moths to the Trash Flame: A Facebook Story

Decoding the Logic of Silicon Valley
Nov. 2 2017 5:18 PM

Trash Moths to the Trash Flame

If Then on the hearings on Facebook and Russian meddling, and an interview with Antonio García Martínez.

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On If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss recent tech news and take a deeper dive into this week’s congressional hearings with the leading social media companies about Russian meddling in the 2016 election. Then the hosts are joined by former Facebook product manager and author of Chaos Monkeys, Antonio García Martínez, to talk about the role of these powerful tech companies, given what we now know about what happened in the run-up to the presidential election.


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