Former Obama administration member Margo Schlanger on the settlement benefiting hundreds of rejected asylum-seekers.

The Trump Administration Is Paying the Price for Family Separations at the Border

The Trump Administration Is Paying the Price for Family Separations at the Border

A daily news and culture podcast with Mike Pesca.
Sept. 13 2018 8:13 PM

The Settlement President

Donald Trump’s settlements often used to right interpersonal wrongs. Now they involve hundreds of asylum-seekers.

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Migrant demonstrators climb the U.S.-Mexico border fence during a rally on April 29 in San Ysidro, California.

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Donald Trump is no stranger to settlements, and the latest of these come between his administration and hundreds of asylum-seekers. They were rejected after making their cases under the duress of being separated from their children … or their parents. “How are the kids supposed to say why they fear persecution? Try having that conversation with a 4-year-old,” says Margo Schlanger, who headed the Department of Homeland Security’s Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties under Obama. If approved by the court, the settlement would give the migrants a second chance to apply for asylum.

In the Spiel, impeachment.

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Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.