Michael Eric Dyson on his latest book about the meeting between Robert Kennedy and black luminaries led by James Baldwin.

In 1963, RFK Met With Black America’s Luminaries to Talk About Race. “And They Lit His Ass Up.”

In 1963, RFK Met With Black America’s Luminaries to Talk About Race. “And They Lit His Ass Up.”

A daily news and culture podcast with Mike Pesca.
June 5 2018 8:24 PM

So You Think You Know About Race

Michael Eric Dyson on the civil rights era, his would-be woke students, and President Obama’s shortcomings.

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Michael Eric Dyson speaks onstage at a gala on Jan. 29 in New York City.

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In 1963, Robert F. Kennedy met with black America’s greatest artists and intellectuals to talk about race. “And they lit his ass up,” according to our guest, making known just how much needed to be done to address racial inequality. Michael Eric Dyson wrote a book about the encounter and its relevance to race issues today. Dyson’s book is What Truth Sounds Like.

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