How the New York Times created its hit podcast The Daily.

The Secret Sauce That Makes the New York TimesThe Daily

The Secret Sauce That Makes the New York TimesThe Daily

A daily news and culture podcast with Mike Pesca.
Dec. 19 2017 9:33 PM

Behind the Scenes at The Daily

Michael Barbaro and Theo Balcomb share their secrets.

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Michael Barbaro and his team at the New York Times podcast The Daily.

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Listen to Episode 893 of Slate’s The Gist:


On The Gist, Mike talks about the consequences of fast-tracking a major tax overhaul.

In the interview, how did the team behind The Daily manage to create a show that’s unlike anything we’ve heard before and also oddly perfect for this moment in news? Host Michael Barbaro and managing producer Theo Balcomb say they talked extensively about what they didn’t want to sound like. “I was like, ‘Oh my gosh, I never want to do a jobs report,’ ” says Balcomb. “ ‘Can we promise we’re never going to do a jobs report?’ ”

In the Spiel, Republicans aren’t necessarily committing political suicide with their $1.5 trillion tax plan.

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Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.