Gordon S. Wood on his book Friends Divided: John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.

Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, BFFs

Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, BFFs

A daily news and culture podcast with Mike Pesca.
Nov. 29 2017 5:50 PM

A Founding Fathers Bromance

The on-again, off-again friendship between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

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Thomas Jefferson, left, and John Adams.

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Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were very different guys representing opposing political parties. Jefferson was a wildly popular aristocrat from Virginia; Adams was a middling, dyspeptic lawyer from Massachusetts. But they were fast friends, and their relationship ultimately survived a presidential election in which they faced off as candidates. Historian Gordon S. Wood explains why their friendship should give us hope. Wood’s book is Friends Divided: John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.

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Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.