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Inside the Biggest Pyramid Scheme Ever

Journalist Steve Fishman on interviewing Bernie Madoff.

Bernard Madoff leaving U.S. Federal Court after a hearing regarding his bail on Jan. 14, 2009, in New York.

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Steve Fishman is one of the few journalists to received access to notorious scam artist Bernie Madoff. His interviews form the backbone of the new Audible series Ponzi Supernova, which goes deep inside the biggest pyramid scheme in American history. Fishman talks about his new series and how Madoff outran federal investigators for decades.

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