Kathleen Sebelius on the future of Obamacare.

Kathleen Sebelius on the GOP’s Bad Ideas for Health Care

Kathleen Sebelius on the GOP’s Bad Ideas for Health Care

A daily news and culture podcast with Mike Pesca.
Feb. 7 2017 6:24 PM

An Obamacare Architect Speaks Out

Former HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius on the Affordable Care Act and the right-ward tumble of politics in Kansas.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius on Jan. 22, 2014, in Washington.

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Before she was the governor of Kansas, Kathleen Sebelius ran the state’s high-risk health care pool, where citizens with serious health problems could get coverage despite their pre-existing conditions. High-risk pools are a favorite idea of the GOP, including many in Congress trying to cook up a replacement for Obamacare. Sebelius says high-risk pools don’t work: “Every day we heard stories of people who couldn’t afford coverage.” Sebelius helped create the Affordable Care Act while she was in President Obama’s Cabinet from 2009 to 2014.

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