The Gist

The 12-Step Program of Highly Effective People

How comedian Nick Thune survived Alcoholics Anonymous, black-market therapy, and Seattle.

Nick Thune on the Tonight Show on Jan. 12.

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Nick Thune took the long way to stand-up comedy, performing Enrique Iglesias cover songs and making a stop in rehab before graduating from high school. On The Gist, he explains why he’s not scared of silence on stage and what made him ditch his guitar. His new special, Nick Thune: Good Guy, is streaming now on Seeso.

In the Spiel, asking much of Steven Mnuchin and parrying with Rick Perry.

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