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The Iran Deal Gets an A From an Arms Control Wonk

The Iran Deal Gets an A From an Arms Control Wonk

A daily news and culture podcast with Mike Pesca.
July 15 2015 6:09 PM

Let’s Grade a Deal (Iran Edition)

Mike Pesca plays a game with the host of his favorite arms-control podcast.

Can we deal with the deal?

Photo by ATTA KENARE / Staff / Getty Images.

Listen to Episode 298 of Slate’s The Gist:


Even the most qualified arms control experts had little confidence that the Iran deal would even happen, much less be good. On The Gist, Dr. Jeffrey Lewis explains why you have to hate deals in order to dislike the Iran deal. Lewis hosts Mike’s favorite arms podcast, Arms Control Wonk. For the Spiel, the worst ongoing analogy of American politics.

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Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.