The Gist on diplomacy in Burma, and a vexillology corner with Ted Kaye.
Ukrainian Separatists Are Losing the Battle of the Flag
A daily news and culture podcast with Mike Pesca.
Aug. 14 2014 7:18 PM

In Ukraine, Even the Flags Are Clashing

The Gist explores when a flag becomes a political message in this vexillology corner.

Guest vexillologist Ted Kaye explains how the separatist flag for the “Donetsk People's Republic” sends a political message.

Photo illustration by Slate. Photo John Macdougall/Getty Images.

Listen to Episode 71 of Slate’s The Gist:


President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton can often be heard speaking proudly about diplomatic progress in Burma. Today on The Gist, RAND Corp. political scientist Jonah Blank puts the success story in context. Plus, Ted Kaye joins us in a vexillology corner to assess the flag of the self-declared Donetsk People’s Republic in eastern Ukraine. For the Spiel, you get a tank and you get a tank.


Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.