The Waves

The “What to Do With Bad Men” Edition

The Double X Gabfest on #MeToo men trying to make comebacks, Gina Haspel, and Marchesa.

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On this week’s Double X Gabfest, Invisibilia co-host Hanna Rosin, New York magazine’s Noreen Malone, and senior managing producer of the Slate podcast network June Thomas discuss the disgraced men of the #MeToo movement trying to make comebacks, and if any of them deserve it. They then talk about Gina Haspel and how we should think about her background and nomination to be CIA director. Finally, the gabbers discuss Georgina Chapman, Harvey Weinstein’s ex-wife, and how her brand Marchesa fits into a post-Weinstein world.

Slate Plus: Are the concept and phrase mommy brain sexist?

Other items discussed on the show:

Recommendations:

June: Indigo-dyeing workshops at Curious Corners in Brooklyn, and BBC America’s Killing Eve

Hanna: Theory of Bastards, by Audrey Schulman

Noreen: Ali Wong’s new comedy special Hard Knock Wife, and Hannah Gadsby’s stand-up special Nanette, coming to Netflix next month.

This podcast was produced by Veralyn Williams. Our production assistant is Daniel Schroeder.

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