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March 21 2003 2:42 PM

Honor Role

The Fray on the American mission.

Blogged down:Zathras responds to Mickey Kaus's suggestion that war doesn't kill blogging with this (in part):

I don't think war kills blogging, but it does depress it. The range of possible outcomes in a war is so vast and the facts that might enable one to predict which of these outcomes is most likely are so hard to come by that most opinions come across as uninformed speculation. They don't feel very useful to read; speaking for myself only they don't feel very useful to write either.

Still, he hasn't let it stop him from offering this detailed remembrance of the Spring of 1991 and the American betrayal (more or less) of the uprisings after the Gulf War.

Honor bright: On the subject of betrayal, BenK suggests that talk about American honor is not misplaced. What makes the post noteworthy is the balanced assessment of justifications that make no mention of honor at all:

The United States is a very risky friend, and also a risky enemy. We have a mixed record in both cases. Frequently, after punishing an enemy we end up helping them more than we do our friends. One problem is that we have frequently, more often than not, in fact, been involved in civil wars. Were we a friend or an enemy to Vietnam? Korea? China?

Another problem is that we are frequently perceived to be possessed [of] the necessary force to achieve almost any outcome, which makes any failure seem like a failure of will rather than a failure of might, when in fact some outcomes might be unachievable within the parameters of self-preservation …

Life during wartime: AmericaninEgypt—who does tech work in the Office of Military Cooperation in Egypt—offers this about how work has changed:

In all the uproar about what's going on in Iraq— … listen I'd rather be there, I'd feel safer than here—a lot of people are being forgotten. Do we count? We work for the OMC here and we ride to and from work now every day, hiding in the back of our vans. No one is allowed to sit in the front seat with our driver anymore. We have to worry about three different groups. 1. Organized groups who know who we are. 2. Disgruntled or riled up individuals or groups who know who we are. 3. University students rioting who know we are. Fairly high SF.

For an earlier post, check here. And don't miss zeitguy's effective rant here

M*A*S*H notes: Clearing a longstanding backlog, new Fray stars to: andkathleen, BenK,Churchill, DeaH, Gamebird, J_Mann, MarcEJohnson, ShriekingViolet, twifferTheGnu, and WatchfulBabbler. I have starred them already. They should report to the Best of the Fray  for mandatory adulation. That is all … 11:30 a.m.


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