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Oct. 13 2002 10:30 AM

Ciceros and Visigoths

The Boston Globe on the Fray's freedom to flame.

Fraywatch special?: Nicholas Thompson writes disparagingly of online political discussion in general, but approvingly of The Fray here  in the Ideas section of this Sunday's Boston Globe. (Some technical corrections: regular readers know we don't block curse words—democracy can take a little swearing—I don't block 30 people a day [more like 5 to 10] and the link marylb's old Torricelli thread is fixed.) ... 7:30 a.m.


Friday, Oct. 11, 2002  

Play isonomisty for me: The perplexed and pining who write to Dear Prudence probably don't know how tough the Fray can be on them. Try Ruby's "Heart full of gifts, brain full of stupid" here or doodahman's weekly "two cents" here. But if correspondents are ignorant, Prudie certainly knows how tough the Fray can be on her. Baltimore Aureole translates one of Prudie's letters thus:

"Sandra in Italy" is an older woman seeing a man who is 14 years younger. he insists on seeing other women, and is up front about telling her this is not a love relationship. the sex is "the greatest ever". there is a word for this man (in italian): "Gigolo." Prudie should travel more.

Prudie responds, "I liked your letter. and strangely enough, Pru has just returned from ... italy!" (So much for proofreading …)

Sometimes a consensus emerges that Prudie is wrong. This week, several threads take issue with her advice to the childless-by-choice friend of a breeder family with "a four-year-old boss." Julia (here), 4 once 2 (here) and others note that the problem isn't with the kid (who is four) or the parents (who don't brook interruption) but the friend

Robin Hood vs. the primal horde: Steve Landsburg's discussion of Nobel-winner Vernon Smith has brought out the best in the Everyday Economics Fray. There have been two major branches of the discussion. In one, Fraysters have offered compelling accounts of the psychology of experimentees that might entice them to "force" someone to give away money. (One could begin with Captain Ron Voyage's thread here, or history guy's excellent post here.) The other branch argues that experimentees behave exactly as they do outside the experiment, only moreso. This has been championed by Mangar, here in particular. The Fray awaits synthesis ...

CRV cv: Captain Ron has been extremely busy (note above and yesterday's comments on Saletan below). For those who can't get enough, he starts an excellent discussion of wide receiver jerks with this:

Most of the guys listed were deep receivers, as was the job description listed. But Keyshawn Johnson is not a sideline-loving speed-burner like Galloway or Moss, but a possession receiver, a position prized not for its speed but its ability to get open over the middle and reliably catch passes in short yardage situations. Most possession receivers are hard-working humble folks, not egotists like Moss et al., which makes Keyshawn's incredible degree of assholity just that much more remarkable …

Illegibly yours: The Readme Fray discussion of Kinsley's latest attack on the President's case for war has been crushed by an avalanche of one-off posters. To find some of the better responses, begin here12:50 p.m.