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Oct. 23 2002 3:05 PM

Barry-ing the Lede

The Fray finds Slate's World Series coverage predictable.

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Since when did Conservative Christian Corporate America (Coors surely falls within that realm) start sponsoring incestuous group sex, or at least the heavy suggestion of it? I mean, I'm not going to say it's necessarily a bad thing, but it does seem like a radical departure.

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Go Bearcats? Some excellent responses in the Chatterbox Frayto Tim Noah's report on the decline in African-American enrollments at Caltech and some elite institutions. (Scroll down to the bottom of the article to read them.) Funniest not-quite-accurate post? Cb's here:

3 freshman blacks at Cal Tech. If those three graduate ... and they will, that will be more blacks with a degree than the Cincinnati basketball team has graduated in the past 7 years-or more.

(Not-quite-accurate based on this and other sources.)

Happiness is a warm Fray: Last Friday night, Judith Harris, author of The Nurture Assumption, jumped into the Dialogues Fray here to take issue with Martin Seligman and with Fraysters Carolyn and Omnivorous Reader. Seligman responds here. It is a terrific, testy thread, and I'm sorry it wasn't front and center in Fraywatch yesterday. (Thanks to Kassandrafor the after-hours monitoring.) ... 9:00 a.m.

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Monday, Oct. 21, 2002  

Hook and ladder: Last week in Chatterbox, Tim Noah defended William Langewiesche's account of the World Trade Center rubble, American Ground, against Rhonda Roland Shearer's attacks. Ray Suarez, senior correspondent for The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer, jumps into the Fray with his own story here. A part of his post:

Why is it so hard to believe that while some men were selflessly heading higher and higher in the buildings, that others were ripping off jeans? (When I went down into the mall with an urban search and rescue team a few days after September 11, I passed food and women's clothing stores that were eerily intact, just covered in a fine layer of dust... and a Tourneau watch store that had been torn to pieces)

At a site where, at the time, untold thousands of people were believed dead, I kept interviewing firefighters coming off the pile who only talked to me of their "brothers," and only of the other victims when prompted by a reporter.

Why can't we grant firefighters the privilege of humanity? That among their thousands there are (were) unspeakably brave, skilled, and selfless men, and jerks who hit their wives, never see their kids, and some who weren't even very good at their jobs. They are not secular saints. They are fine and flawed human beings caught up in a premeditated mass murder.

Omnibus Readerdefends Langewiesche's description of the firefighters as "tribal" here. The payoff: "If you cannot see the kilted bagpiper as a means of tribal identification, you are blind. And deaf."

Mangar argues that Shearer shares her argumentative "penchant" with her late husband, Stephen Jay Gould, and takes a minute to speak ill of the dead. Perhaps he is gunning for a job writing Slate Obits? ...

Avenging the Angels: Which Angels team will show up in the World Series? Last Friday, Chris Suellentrop laid out their woeful history. Over the weekend, Hugo Lindgren proclaimed "it is impossible not to like the Angels" for their scrappy play. B Muir disagrees here. Just one of the reasons:

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