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Sept. 28 2002 2:31 AM

Things Besides Iraq

The Fray discusses more than the war.

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If Gore steps out on the Iraq issue and is shown to be prescient he will have a political foundation upon which he can build another campaign for President. If he turns out to be wrong, he has lost nothing.

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Publius makes a similar point here, and is probably willing to debate it ...

Lyall opposition: Lyall Bush is in fine rhetorical form here  criticizing the apathetic populus:

[T]he country allows Bush and his advisors to bray about a world whose history and politics they haven't learned, simplify the globe's labyrinthine arrangements as if they were the malleable stuff of a Clint Eastwood movie, and puff themselves up as if advertising new communications software -- all the while working to make the world a more dangerous place. And Klein is right to commend Gore for saying why we need to push back at them, too.

Utek, though, finds the problem lies with Democrats in Congress who first failed to oppose the Bush tax cut and are now rushing to support the war. His conclusion?:

So far, the only criticism from the Dems has come from a politician who's not in office. Someone should tell the Democrats that to be the loyal opposition, one needs to start opposing something ...

Drumbeat: Speaking of Democrats in Congress, Gore advocated slowing down the debate on going to war and Klein thought would hurt Democrats who don't want to campaign on the war. But The Bell disagrees here. The crux:

Gore's call for a slowdown in the debate and vote is not unintentionally meant to inconvenience incumbent Democrats but intentionally meant to help them … If Democratic anti-war incumbents are forced to stand and make a protracted fight in Washington debates, they cannot stump in their home districts ...

One of us … one of us: Joe thinks Gore's "hastily written pronouncements" as Klein called them, make the ex-Veep "just like the writers and fraysters at Slate." "Come on Gore, join the dark side." 12:50 p.m.

Iraqathon: From yesterday's cover, you can see that for awhile Slate will be all-Iraq all-the-time (almost). How to Fray? Let me offer some suggestions:

If you want to participate in a discussion and not simply shout from the laptops, you might want to avoid any Fray for an article that is currently linked to the msn.com homepage. The msn.com link encourages a lot of posts, but it creates a shoot-and-scoot effect.

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